Laser Vago/RS Vision/Topper Omega

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   My club has a fleet of Laser Picos that they use for junior training and there is also an active Oppy, Laser & mirror fleet. The Picos have been a big sucess but they are very basic. During a discussion yesterday, a committee member mentioned that they may be interested in buying a fleet of boats more suited to adult training and a progression from the junior dinghys. The idea is to buy 4 or 6 boats. Something like the Laser Vago/RS Vision/Topper Omega would be ideal because it is simply and low maintainance. I would encourage the club to buy something like this so that adult members can use them. The intention would be to buy the asssymetric kites and the bigger rigs. Are these boats any good? Can anyone recommend one? 

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Dino Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dino Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Laser Vago/RS Vision/Topper Omega Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 5:37pm
	Hi, My club has a fleet of Laser Picos that they use for junior training and there is also an active Oppy, Laser & mirror fleet. The Picos have been a big sucess but they are very basic. During a discussion yesterday, a committee member mentioned that they may be interested in buying a fleet of boats more suited to adult training and a progression from the junior dinghys. The idea is to buy 4 or 6 boats. Something like the Laser Vago/RS Vision/Topper Omega would be ideal because it is simply and low maintainance. I would encourage the club to buy something like this so that adult members can use them. The intention would be to buy the asssymetric kites and the bigger rigs. Are these boats any good? Can anyone recommend one?

Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 6:11pm
	How about a laser 2000 ? Optional trapeze very low maintenece for a club boat?
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 6:15pm
	i am not keen on any of them but if i had to get one i would get the vago

redback Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502	Post Options Post Reply Quote redback Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:15pm
	I'm not sure about the Vago - I believe its a compromise youth trainer/adult single hander and possibly does not have enough room or sail area for two adults. The Laser 2000 however is an excellent boat but would probably need a bit more care. We've bought 2 for our club and they have proved very popular if a bit sensitive for the apprehensive adult.

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:24pm
	yer i have to agree cos the 2000 is very responsive and it is easy to sail!
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:29pm
	ok but how about the re200 like the laser 2000 but more powaful what do you think

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:32pm
	it is a bit tippy and the rs200 is a bit more of a racer!
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Mike278 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 09 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike278 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:32pm
	for a training boat the 2000 is much better than the RS 200.
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carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 05 at 9:42pm
	yer and the 2000 is a good stepping stone for bigger and better boats!!
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maxim Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 127	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxim Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Apr 05 at 4:01pm
	I think the vago would probably be quite roomy. 4 metres 20, with an inverted vang thing, and a center-board not dagger board. All these create space, and it's not your typical laser 2 style 'sit in a hole', but designed with proper gunales, it looked quite comfortable. I think it will be quite a useful and succesful boat. As for sail area, talking to the guy at the boat show, who was not small (if you know what I mean), he and a mate were planing very quickly, and moving much fater than expected (and it has the choice of varios sail combanations). With an aesymetric and trapeze, certainly a step up from Picos, Oppys and Mirrors... However, I want to see more of it on the water - coming soon I think...