view on topaz?

   My mate has just bought a topaz tres (he wanted the trapeze and spinni for someone his size) and asked me to take him for a spin! i HATE it! thers not nearly enough space! its way too narrow! the spinni is unbelievable, its so small, so hard to get up! (thats if it doesent get caught in one of the hundred stupidly little blocks) and the entire system is stuffed into a tiny space! sure the rounded hull makes easy for writing, but contributes to the capsizeing! its nothing against the 29er!

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pro wannabe Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 18 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote pro wannabe Report Post Quote Reply Topic: view on topaz? Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:38pm
	My mate has just bought a topaz tres (he wanted the trapeze and spinni for someone his size) and asked me to take him for a spin! i HATE it! thers not nearly enough space! its way too narrow! the spinni is unbelievable, its so small, so hard to get up! (thats if it doesent get caught in one of the hundred stupidly little blocks) and the entire system is stuffed into a tiny space! sure the rounded hull makes easy for writing, but contributes to the capsizeing! its nothing against the 29er!
	Your spinni aint as big as your mouth!

Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:43pm
	No it is a complete flop but i don't think you will get many reply's because in lots of threads we have already expressed our hate for he Topaz Tres !
	-[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933

sailor.jon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor.jon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:48pm
	Topaz trez its alright peeps saying how much they hate um, i have to teach in them
	Jon Vortex 1169 Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 8:01pm
	get your mate to sell it before he loses to much money on it!!! topaz trez = dog poo
	International 14 1503

Phil eltringham Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105	Post Options Post Reply Quote Phil eltringham Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 8:52pm
	the only decent topaz rig is the uno main with the kite, the system is a lot better (less blocks and longer kite sock) and one up the power to weight ratio is reasonable enough to actually make the stupid thing move.
	FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen

Win or Swim Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Win or Swim Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 9:22pm
	I have to teach in tres' too and its a right bloody nightmare! None of the systems work, spinnies get tangled and wont gybe, battens on mainsail wont 'pop' even with the hardest of rolls and all that adds up to lots of swimming. It eventually turns out to be one on one training with one student & one instructor in the boat just so they can sail without capsizing for 5 minutes. We paid a bomb for them, and only had them a couple of years, and now the loss we've made on them is a joke. People should learn there isn't an easy answer in life and that we should stick with the popular training classes (such as 29er) as they actually work! Topaz =

Phil eltringham Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105	Post Options Post Reply Quote Phil eltringham Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 9:26pm
	if the batterns aren't popping, either loosen them or use more kicker (even if you just pump it on to pop them and then ease it off after you are settled on the new tack.
	FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen

tgruitt Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479	Post Options Post Reply Quote tgruitt Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 2:52pm
	the hulls flex too much, when the gust hits you can see the front of the boat start to twist off. They're a bit crap I think
	Needs to sail more...

stuarthop Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Dec 04 Location: Nottingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 1040	Post Options Post Reply Quote stuarthop Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 3:27pm
	They are !!!! Too pop the top batten pull pull the downhall on that will pop it then let it off again


JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 4:22pm
	I dunno that I'd care to maintain 29ers as club boats unless there were paid staff. As a pedigree race boat they do require a bit more care and attention than a club boat tends to get. Tupperware is definitely the material of choice for the everyone jump in club boat. The issue of course is that it needs just as much if not more r&d and attention to layout, interior design, fittings location etc as the pedigree boat. And when it comes to fittings etc they do suffer because they are so price sensitive. Wait for the expensive bolt on Tres race kit fittings some time soon [grin]