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SimpleSimon 
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 Topic: Single hander for a 13 /13.5 stone sailorPosted: 06 Jun 08 at 7:20am |
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Hi I've been out of sailing for a number of years and am hopefully going to return to sailing. I am looking for a plastic, single hander. I will be sailing inland. My weight fluctuates between 13 - 13.5 stones. Would I be to heavy for a laser? Would I be to light for a phantom? What would you recommend (including alternatives)? Si |
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Charlie
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 8:04am |
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Stock answer would be look at these possible boats:
Finn Phantom Laser 8.1 Blaze RS300 But in all honesty rather than try and convince you to join a certain class you're better off going to the club you want to be sailing at and seeing what else is being sailed there. If you get a boat that already has a fleet then it will be far more enjoyable on the weekends (take it you'll just be club sailing to begin with, no nationals etc?) and there's a lot to be said for beating people on the water than through handicap. Plus if there are the same boats being sailed then you'll get up to speed a lot faster with the help of other sailors. (my 2 pennies worth, prob best taken with a pinch of salt.) |
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Chew my RS
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 8:53am |
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13-13.5 stone is absolutely fine for a laser. Okay 12-12.5 might be 'ideal', but the difference in speed will be so small it will be lost in all the other mistakes that you (and everyone who isn't Ben Ainslie) make e.g. bad start, fluffed tack, sail more than one year old, self bailer left open etc. The benefit of the Laser is that you can find one at any budget (£200-£4000), you'll always have someone to race against and you can sell it one, with no depreciation, really easily. There are better boats to sail, but they are generally more expensive (or worse condition for the money), offer less fleet racing, are harder to sell and often (but not always) more fiddly. As a first boat back, I would strongly recommend a Laser, and then when your fully back into the swing of things you can decide whether to stick or twist, with more idea about what you personally are looking for in a boat. Best of luck. |
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SimpleSimon
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 9:10am |
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Thanks for the replies. I think you've confirmed what I was thinking. I used to sail a laser (the first thing I bought when I left school and started work (31 years ago!) and they are simple no messing boats. Sailed at almost any club. I hadn't heard of the Rooster 8.1 rig, although I have seen Rooster mentioned in adverts. This sounds like it could be a good option. Is the Rooster 8.1 rig well recognised? What is the PY for that setup? Thanks again for your help. Simon |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 9:58am |
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I'd stay with the Standard Laser rig unless you are:
1: super fit middle age guy. 2: want a 8.1 for light winds. 1 / 1.5 stone extra in a Standard Laser will just make up for old man knees. |
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SimpleSimon
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 10:41am |
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Ha, ha, how true! My plan - Buy a standard Laser and upgrade if necessary. From what I've seen on the Rooster web site the 8.1 rig looks good value, so I don't think I'd get to many complaints from 'er in dooors if I needed to! So now I just need a 'like new Laser' for bargain price!!! |
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chrisclark123
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 10:43am |
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I'd say that you are far too light to sail an 8.1 in anything apart from light airs, but if you buy a laser there is always that option. where as the other classes mentioned you are stuck with the sail plan.
The rooster 8.1 is recognized and there are 300 odd rigs about already. The PY is 1051 i believe. www.rooster8point1.com is the class website if you are interested. Chris |
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Chris Turner
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Matt Jackson
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You're too light for a Phantom and a Finn, unless you sail somewhere it's rarely windy. |
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Charlie
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Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 2:01pm |
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Woah, how heavy should you be to sail a Finn, i'm bout 13.5 stone and manage fine in up to force 6/7, they're a lot easier to de-power than lasers. And there's guys (and a girl) who are far lighter than me and been fine out in the rough stuff. |
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