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JimC 
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 Topic: Is this good for One Design Sailing?Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 1:35pm |
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So, is this sort of thing (you can only win if you have whizzo's latest superfast boat) good for one design classes? You ignore this ort of thing if its in an advert I guess, but here it feels more like editiorial content... Edited by JimC |
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phantom871
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 2:05pm |
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Having sailed Scorps this looks blinding for the individual with the money to buy the new kit!
But It will lead to the Modern /Classic debate! End up with a split PY and the true spirit of one design being lost!
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Bruce Starbuck
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 2:34pm |
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I hate these self-congratulatory adverts on Y&Y. P&B are the main culprits, it has to be said.
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yellowhammer
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 3:15pm |
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Guest
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 3:26pm |
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I wont comment on the article but seems to me all P&B/Ovi are doing is creating the best boat they can within the rules - isn't that what one-design sailing is all about? Rick |
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rogerd
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 3:35pm |
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The same just happened in the Ospreys and caused all sorts of noise BUT no one has said the new mk 4 is any faster and early results dont show any huge advantage. Its happened to the fireballs who now have a classic fleet and the Hornets some years back and you only see the revos racing. It may be a good thing for a strong class like the Scorp more new boats mean more good second hand ones for the mid fleet sailors. |
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SymBoy
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 5:26pm |
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Give P&B a break, you can't exactly sell many boats if you claim they are no faster than the current boats! I'm sure the Scorpion class will introduce sensible rules if this new epoxy boat outclasses eveyone else. |
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aardvark_issues
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Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 7:28pm |
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I think the new boat is likely very similar to the Specialized marine one, as Chris (Specialized) is now at Ovington. I'm sure that was probably made in epoxy anyway. As long as the hull material is still glass I seriously doubt there will be any step change in performance...
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Stefan Lloyd
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Precisely. If you don't like this kind of thing, sail a SMOD. |
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vscott
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As a delighted helm of a Mark 4 Osprey, it is definitely stiffer and better than our 17 yr old Porters but there is no way I am going to succeed just because I have a new boat. It is certainly as good as a good wooden one, but it has to be to succeed. Who is going to by a boat that is known to be slower than the wooden ones? It has been built with the intention to last, and still be competative after many seasons. So far they are going very well but I don't think they are going to be so different as to split the fleet, like in the FFs where there are 3 groups now. |
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