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    Posted: 21 Apr 06 at 10:19am

 

Some classes claim/ state that cheap boats can be competitive. Are there any classes where (realistically) a sub £1000 boat can win a nationals? (apart from RC lasers!)

Maybe the Lighting 368?

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I think even in boats where tht e hull cost is low enough your gonna be scuppered by the age of the sails!
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It would be tricky, but these might be the easiest to try it in.

Pacer, Heron, Gull, Graduate, Wineglass, Topper(?), Laser(?).

With the geatest of respect to those that sail them, I'm not sure that being Wineglass/Pacer national champ counts for much though these days. You'd think the RYA would refuse to allow them to hold a 'nationals'. Maybe there should be some sort of criteria like minimum attendance, or having entries from more than 5 clubs, or actually selling some boats over the last 5 years.

The Laser would be tricky because of the standard of the fleet, but if you gave Ben Ainslie a £600 hull, added a bit of TLC and a new sail I guess he'd do pretty well.
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Originally posted by Chew my RS

With the geatest of respect to those that sail them, I'm not sure that being Wineglass/Pacer national champ counts for much though these days. You'd think the RYA would refuse to allow them to hold a 'nationals'. Maybe there should be some sort of criteria like minimum attendance, or having entries from more than 5 clubs, or actually selling some boats over the last 5 years.

That's showing them no respect whatsoever! Putting "with the greatest respect" at the beginning doesn't absolve you of this!

I totally agree with the sentiment though, although I'm not sure the RYA would have the authority to stop any class holding a national championship. Might be wrong here though.
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Could probably do it in a Firefly, the wooden ones still keep up with the GRP ones and are pretty cheap.  Again though you'd have issues with sails. 
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Originally posted by Chew my RS

It would be tricky, but these might be the easiest to try it in.

Pacer, Heron, Gull, Graduate, Wineglass, Topper(?), Laser(?).

With the geatest of respect to those that sail them, I'm not sure that being Wineglass/Pacer national champ counts for much though these days. You'd think the RYA would refuse to allow them to hold a 'nationals'. Maybe there should be some sort of criteria like minimum attendance, or having entries from more than 5 clubs, or actually selling some boats over the last 5 years.

The Laser would be tricky because of the standard of the fleet, but if you gave Ben Ainslie a £600 hull, added a bit of TLC and a new sail I guess he'd do pretty well.

Indeed yes, we have a pacer nat champ at out club and we allways pull his chain about it! Although theres never been more than 7boats there lol

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Originally posted by Bruce Starbuck

Originally posted by Chew my RS

With the geatest of respect to those that sail them, I'm not sure that being Wineglass/Pacer national champ counts for much though these days. You'd think the RYA would refuse to allow them to hold a 'nationals'. Maybe there should be some sort of criteria like minimum attendance, or having entries from more than 5 clubs, or actually selling some boats over the last 5 years.

That's showing them no respect whatsoever! Putting "with the greatest respect" at the beginning doesn't absolve you of this!

I totally agree with the sentiment though, although I'm not sure the RYA would have the authority to stop any class holding a national championship. Might be wrong here though.

 

I was just trying to be nice!  I've nothing against people sailing these boats - there great for teaching your children.  Its just that the sense of pride when winning in them must be somewhat tempered by the lack of opposition.

The ISAF determine which classes can and can not hold World Championships, so the RYA should be able to do the same for Nationals.
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Buy and old wreck to train in for £800 ish and charter a new boat for the Nationals for around £200 would be your best bet,I think you could do this in most classes.
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You could definitely do it in the lightning class as the current national champion did and if you wanted to by this national winning boat I am sure he would sell it for just under a grand
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Sten can I charter your boat for the musto nats? with out you there i might stand a chance of winning if it is windy
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