Controversial Topic of the Week

If you look hard enough you'll find that last years 2nd placed UK Cherub
Nationals team have a modified N12 hull under them. All the mods are
above the water line. Also if you look a bit harder still you would see that
it's shape is very similar to the majority of 12ft skiffs.

As for comments about slow.... you should sail one. There's a big
difference between physical speed around a course and the feeling of
speed you get from a boat.

They are a perfect boat for Farther / Mum / son / daughter combinations
that actually want to use there head whilst sailing a race or when not
sailing, rather than performing like a robot sailing an arbitrary sailing
vehicle. Especially in restricted waters. And until you have sailed down the
river at Putney in some breeze you have missed a huge aspect of sailing.

In my opinion they be around a hell of a lot longer than any RS class.

And don't forget without them you are likely not to have the mass dinghy
market we have now.

its not all about speed a slow boat can be exiting as well and a N12 is when its windy iv only sailed one once and i loved every min of it

I do like the look of n12s', but they're not for me, I'm 12.5 stone, so where would I find a decent 5.5 stone crew?

I agree with Jacksparrow that they will be around for a lot longer than the rs200.

Edited by allanorton

Originally posted by Chew my RS Not really, just playing devils advocate.

Mission acomplished

Ummm... looking at my record book in 1966. 30 years after they began
N12's numbers were at around number 2400. So I'm not sure thats quite
right. There was a little thing called a WORLD WAR in the middle of those
30 years as well.

Originally posted by Chris 249 "And don't forget without them you are likely not to have the mass dinghy market we have now." Great boats,  but Beecher Moore (who played a major role in the creation of a hell of a lot of the mass dinghy market we have now) once called the 3 classic British development classes (MR, 14, N12) something like "the greatest waste of time and energy in sailing history" because in their first 30 years, they got a total of about 2,000 boats between them. Certainly history seems to say that the sport did not take off as a mass market exercise until boats like GP14s, Ents, Cadets etc came out, and they are probably not the sort of boat the N12 class would like. Of course, Holt himself started designing N12s (I think......can't be bothered to look it up so may be wrong) and I'm not sure Moore was right in his criticism. But it was an interesting angle, just the same.