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Mikelo 
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Joined: 20 Sep 23 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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 Topic: Purchase inquiryPosted: 20 Sep 23 at 4:14pm |
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Hello everyone,
I am going to buy a Marlin 13ft Ian Procton design and I am having a hard time finding similar boats and I am wondering if anyone can help me: - Do you know how much the boat weighs, to buy a trailer. - How much do you estimate the cost. It comes with daggerboard, rudder, one oar and two sets of sails. Attached are the pictures. I am currently being asked for about 850 and I like it, it has emotional value in addition to what the boat itself means, but I wanted to know other valuations.  |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 20 Sep 23 at 5:53pm |
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It looks similar to a Lark, all up weight I'd guess not more that 150kg, maybe 200 with the launching trolly (Google suggests a hull weight of around 100kg). Value, not very much, probably no more than, say, 250 without a road base (and it would have to be complete, with reasonably usable sails and in pretty good condition to be worth that much IMO). Sentimental value though is for you to determine.
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tink
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Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 788 |
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Posted: 20 Sep 23 at 6:27pm |
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Looks similar construction and age to a MK3 Gull (also Proctor) they are put for sail between £350 £750. I have a MK1 again similar construction. The fore and aft tanks had waterlogged foam that I removed. The foredeck was barely attached so well worth checking out those areas. I think you are pretty determined to buy but this might help in the negotiation.
This is what was in my forward tank, you wont need to add a hatch, its all about how much you time want to spent repairing |
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Tink
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NickA
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Posted: 20 Sep 23 at 7:46pm |
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Looks like the sort of boat the seller would pay you to take away! Especially given the cost of a new road base.
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JimC
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Posted: 20 Sep 23 at 9:18pm |
I fear I agree. If I were purchasing I might be prepared to pay a nominal 25 quid or something, but basically as a boat with a gold anodised mast and tufnol cleats it is surely well over 50 years old and as it's of an of an obscure/extinct class, pretty much valueless. |
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Mikelo
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Posted: 20 Sep 23 at 9:55pm |
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Really thanks for your help. I think that I should negociate. I am going to wait for other answers but It's clear. Really thanks to everybody
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tink
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Posted: 21 Sep 23 at 5:35am |
Maybe not a future racing but there are plenty of old boats in the dinghy park that could give years of fun. Hours per year my £360 eBay 55+ year old boat is getting more use and more enjoyable sailing any boat in the past 45 years of sailing.
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Paramedic
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Posted: 21 Sep 23 at 7:37am |
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Where is the boat?
This will impact on value, I note that that the price quoted is in euros and the European market will be very different to the UK market. In the UK that, bluntly, is barely worth £85 never mind £850 unless it ticks boxes for you that nothing else does. You do see similar boats for sale in places like Dartmouth and Salcombe at what seem to me to be ridiculous prices but they sell and do get used - value is in the eye of the purchaser! Some people derive great pleasure from owning something unusual and if you're not racing the lack of available parts and sails doesn't matter. But these people tend to be enthusiasts bordering on anoraks with lots of time to spend putting their pride and joy back together. To directly answer the question if the boat is about 12ft long it will need a Mersea 220 size trolley/trailer or equivalent. The larger, more common, 250 is likely to be very nose heavy based on my experience. New this cost approx £1200, good luck finding a used one that doesn't come with a free boat! The trolley under the boat will not fit properly on a road base and doesn't look to be very strong. The balance point also looks wrong with the axle too far forward. Weight of the boat isnt going to be. problem, the suspension units are always at least 150kg, usually 250kg snd you wont get anywhere near the limit. You can get a reasonable plastic GP14 with a combi for around £1200 that - in my view - would do a better job.
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Mikelo
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Posted: 21 Sep 23 at 7:53am |
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Good. Thank you very much for your informative answer.
Following the thread of the conversation: The boat is in Murcia in the south of Spain (I am also from Spain), so it has not been very battered by the weather. I am being offered a second hand trailer with papers for 800 for that boat, but I was looking to buy a new one as I think it would be better. Specifically I saw this one:  Regarding the boat... I have to negotiate, I think that at most I would give 400 or 500, but I'm still waiting for more opinions. Sincerely I am a little romantic of the objects, I know that for 1000 I can see snipes and other categories, but it seems to me in a way a little piece of history, plus it is from a friend. But I don't want to pay for the friendship either : ) Could you give me your opinion about the trailer? |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 21 Sep 23 at 10:48am |
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That price is for the trolly alone (and not the one shown but the more skeletal single spine version) the whole combination in its cheapest form is 1659. I wouldn't be spending that much on a trailer for a 250 boat*.
* mates rates and top money at that, I was being generous in my earlier post but, realistically, as Nick and Jim say, it has no real value.
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