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JimC
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Topic: Winder and Trailers? Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 10:29am |
> man with car and rivet gun.
Who knows what the rules say is allowed. But even if that is allowed, add up the costs for pay, travel costs, hotel bills for the man with the car, time spent organising and contacting purchasers and so on, then consider how many - or rather how few - trailers can be done each day with the problems of getting access to trailers in locked club compounds, arranging things with owners who are getting nothing but inconvenience from this. And the owners will be put to considerable inconvenience, really they'd be morally entitled to some kind of payment and indeed some might not co-operate without. I have no idea whether any actual useful modifications will be required to the trailers, but at 200 quid a trailer there cannot be much. Winders are paying a hell of a price for what I bet is simply an administrative messsup. Edited by JimC - 18 Sep 21 at 10:32am |
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 10:43am |
Err what ever it is ,it’s not a simple admin slip up .They were selling trailers that didn’t conform to regulations, that is not a admin slip up.
They either were doing it on purpose or they were totally incompetent. I am not sure what’s worse . Everyone in the industry has known about the rules since 2014 and that you need type approval. Hell even I know it I build a trailer in my garage ,I have to have a IVA before I can use it on the road . Edited by Grumpycat - 18 Sep 21 at 11:00pm |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 5:24pm |
Why are Winder in the dock for this? They don’t build the trailers, they buy them inane sell them on. Surely it is the OEM’s responsibility to type approve them?
What I do know is that I have a fully compliant trailer but never use those stupid cantilever arms any more. They are worse than useless.
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 6:19pm |
Because they sold them , therefore it’s their job to check they have been TA .
Edited by Grumpycat - 18 Sep 21 at 6:21pm |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 6:43pm |
My company sometimes uses outside contractors when we are really busy, customers who have issues don't want to hear about contractors, (the job was given to us), to add to this, contractors price the job cheaper because we do the guarantee work, the buck stops with the retailer.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 8:24pm |
Hmmm, if a corner shop sells a tin of soup that has salmonella in it, whose at fault, Heinz or the shop?
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 8:33pm |
Big difference between a corner shop and a company that employs a large technical department and no unskilled staff.
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Robert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 9:04pm |
Winder employ a large technical department?!
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 9:20pm |
Don't know wasn't talking about Winder.
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 21 at 10:52pm |
If it’s a Heinz tin it’s Heinz. But what if it’s a shops own brand tin that’s been made to the the shops spec that does not conform to the law , then it’s the shops responsibility. Winder sold it as conforming to the law, it didn’t . It was their job to check it did , they didn’t . The customers contract was with winder , not the third party manufacturer. There is no excuse for this , winder either did this knowingly or they were incompetent. As I said earlier I am not sure what’s worse.
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