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    Posted: 27 Oct 12 at 6:28pm

Think you missed charlies point Jim.  If you do a dry capsize in a solo i.e. jusmp straight on the board the boat fill up with water, if you right the boat from the water (easy enough) it comes up dry.  Which is arguably quicker then drying to dry the boat via bailers and transom flaps.  if you open the transom flap whilst in the water, it will fill up and you may as well of jumped on the board.

But as an aid to get back in the boat from the water thats a good tip!

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Some of us sexagenarians ( hey!  a cool sexy word for us old gits ) are still sailing tippy boats - If I don't fall in more than ten times every time I go out I feel cheated. However capsize recovery in a moth is almost as easy as falling in - the board is almost level with the water, you only need to put your foot on the board in the nice angle where the foil meets it, and it comes up. Light winds you can vault over the top, or in a breeze just pull the wing  down, grab the sheet and it pulls you up - no climbing involved.

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The one time I put my Solo in I swam/drifted it in to shore and got it up where I could stand on the bottom (of the lake). It seemed to drain easily enough. The trouble is that as we age mobility decreases. I am only 66 and am fairly small, 10 1/2 stone and fairly fit but I have a stiff back. All that jumping off the board as the boat comes up is not possible for me and so I have to climb back in from the water. This is why I am reluctant to capsize. Our oldest sailor is 76 and he has not put his GP in for at least 5 years, sensible! But we have a 74 year old Phantom sailor who has no fear and NEVER gives up in or out of the water.

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Guys ,
Thanks for the encouragement re the punk boat.
I have irons in fires that may mean that it is possible to buy one on the open market in the forseeable future as an improved mk2 version. Fingers crossed for that.
As for the speed - I consider it to be 90 seconds an hour quicker than my cloned self in a laser.
Poss a touch more in 3-6 kts when the laser rig is spectacularly bad. For same "box" dimensions, ease of use, and i believe very similar sail area.
It doesn't roll tack as well though.
To be honest the rig shares more design DNA with Rodney's Finn than a windsurfer, but certainly some modern touches help to broaden the performance. It is also far less costly than the glam Finn rigs.
I reckon the phant is a similar amount quicker than the punk. I can live with them in light airs ww/lw, but any reaching and or breeze and all that extra length, sail area and beam on deck really starts working.
The conditions flattered me / the boat at broxbourne - pretty much all of the boats that Graeme mentions would have pasted the punk to one degree of another given open water and steadier / or more breeze. If ever the punk will punch above its weight, its in those conditions. I think the x1 especially beat me over the water in all but maybe 2 races. A real weapon in those conditions! Also, I spent my formative years racing on a shifty river - it's amazing how much boat speed can be overcome by being in a puff on a lift.
I think that to think about the pace of the punk boat is maybe missing the point. There are many many things that I could have done to make it quicker, these would have either added cost, or detracted from brief of "performance beachboat for the 21st century."
When I was designing it I was obsessed with making it as sailor focused and accessible as possible. I didn't want to feel like I was getting in a boat for a sail, more pulling on a glove. Performance would be a happy byproduct.
For me, the best thing about the punk boat is that it's sufficiently easy, yet engaging, rewarding and inspiring to the ssailor.
I can put it on a car roof, It is a stable as tge laser - I would be happy sending quite small kids out in it, I have gone fishing with my wife in it (we didn't catch anything, but it was fun).
I try to get people out sailing in it whenever possible, and they pretty much always come back smiling regardless of age size or gender. That or feigning politeness. The overwhelming feedback I get is that it is "really easy and nice to sail" and "very well mannered" - I suspect that it's unusual appearance makes people think that it may be a bit belligerent / twitchy / demanding, but it really isn't.
Only capsized a couple of times in 4 years, no problems there, but then I am adept at climbing on boards, my other boat being an I 14. Punk is narrower on deck and lower than most equivalent boats like goslows, plus the mast is light and sealed, so climbing on and righting are straightforward.
Hope that answers a few questions.
Dan



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