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    Posted: 25 Sep 12 at 5:44pm
As the person in question at the beginning of the thread, I am not currently a member of a sailing club, I simply do not do enough sailing (maybe 3 or 4 opens a year) to justifiy the expense of the annual fee and do not have the need to store a boat there. I am however a fully paid up member of the class association of boats I race and also of the RYA for the last 15 years or so.
 
If I am a member of the RYA surely this means I am covered although will happily accept that in order to abide by the rules you need to be a member of an actual sailing club
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Hi everyone,

These links explain the R.Y.A. affiliation details:

http://www.rya.org.uk/infoadvice/clubsclass/Pages/whyaffiliate.aspx




So, as I understand it, a club with say 300 members, each paying say £150 a year membership fees (£45,000 total club income) would pay the R.Y.A. an affiliation fee of £1,050 a year (£3.50p per member).

Ian  (Yorkshire Dales S.C.)


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Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

If I am a member of the RYA surely this means I am covered

Indeed you are.

If you were not an RYA member there are clubs and orgs that do paper membership for low fees which provide the necessary chain of authority.
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Do you have to state the club of which you are a member? I know for a fact that both the helm and crew of boat in question regarding the sponsorship are members of a prominent South Coast club, and thus surely are covered even if they tried the so called 'cheeky advertising'?
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Stevie,
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If the competitors are members of a sailing club but do not declare it at registration - they should not be surprised if the organisers refuse their entry.

sounds like deliberate provocation...
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Guys,
 
names are being named in this thread. Bad idea.
 
If you don't like something that's going on you have recourse to protest at the event. You do not - or should not - do nothing at the event and then have a go at the people in question via the internet.
 
Did anyone at the event ask those in question if they were a member of a club?
Did anyone at the event ask if they were a member of the RYA?
Did anyone at the event ask if not why not?
 
I bet the answer is no. It's safer to do it from behind a keyboard.
 
This is going on more and more. People seem to think that it's Ok to subject people to this "Trial by forum" where they are guilty until proven innocent and in all liklihood don't even know that it's going on. It's not fair, it's not right, it needs to stop.


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Scuttlebutt Sailing Club

Scuttlebutt Sailing Club, the official club of the Scuttlebutt newsletter, officially sanctioned by US Sailing since 2001, and officially available to all Scuttlebutt readers.

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/ssc/

Clubs provide a sanctuary, a place where one can seek refuge and surround themselves with those of common interests.

While SSC provides none of that, we do satisfy a racing requirement regarding membership to a club recognized by a national authority.

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There might be a problem if a member of a US club tries to qualify for a major event as a GBR sailor. Important for classes which impose a limited number of entries per country at International events.

For information - in Ireland the person in charge (see rule 46) if resident within the jurisdiction of the ISA (a moot point) must be a member of a Category One club, defined as organisations with "open membership, which are engaged in the organisation of sailing and/or leisure boating activities for their members."  If one is not a memmber of an ISA club then individual membership of the ISA is required. Class asociations are defined as national organisations and not as clubs.
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