What is an F16

I'd love to see the rest of tha tsequence... did it pitchpole?

Hi all,

always remember that the people you are talking about are likely to see the posts.

Why did you have to post those photo's Scooby I will never live them down.
Altered was happy to sail along like this until I backed the spin. off. I was just showing off to a friend on a F24 Tri, out of picture. Showing him how the bows don't trip, thats my excuse and I am sticking to it

I have since learn't that sticking bows under when overpowered can be avoided by over sheeting the main. With the flow un attached on the main the bows ride high with the spin. drawing properly

As far as the boat is concerned I cut 20" off the A class hulls, 11" off the bow and 9" of the stern. I agree that one of the advantages of the F16 class is it's flexibility to be sailed one or two up, but in my case I had already been doing this on my previous cat class the Mosquito and felt like being selfish for a while

It is true that one up and two up can race equaly in F16 but conditions generaly determine the winner.
My theory is that for one up to be totaly competitive against two up boat for boat in a variety of conditions paticularly strong winds, it has to have everything going for it like the A class, minimum size hulls etc. But I couldn't afford to get hulls built so modifying an A class was a cheap way to try it out. Still haven't proven my theory yet as haven't sailed against enough other one ups with hulls that can be sailed two up and keep crashing in strong winds letting two ups ahead.

Scooby I was very interested to hear about your project boat, was it the weight of F16 or the length that made you decide it was not the boat for you. Would love to  see you get project boat built  as a F16 next step from what I did with Altered?

See "Roll call" thread for pic. of Altered at her best.

Regards Gary.

Originally posted by Granite do you have the T rudders on Altered? if so how big? and do you think they help control the pitch attitude of the boat?

 

My new boat will have T foils; just need to sell the old boat first.

Reason for going for the Custom build was

 

1, partly that John has an A class mould sitting around we can use,

2 as it was always going to be a bit of a monster -(Sort of designed the size of rig I wanted and then chose the platform) I decided that I wanted to go to 18 foot.

3,  John and I spent hours on the phone / web playing with ideas and after wandering all over the place (from a 10 foot wide F18Ht to be sailed single handed) to a F16 hull with a A class rig on it we ended up with going for A class hulls, 8 foot 2 wide, slightly bigger mainsail and a kite.

 

Now will someone please buy my inter 17 so I can get this thing built....

 

Hi

In my humble opinion F16 look great and seem to really shift.

If you sail 1or2 up or are a 'tweaker' great.

I wonder does F18 suffer a bit by having to have the latest design, are the older boats devalued by this?  Would this put off a potential F16 owner if this became the case with these cats?

Lots of questions I know!

In the end and because I sail with 'she who must be obeyed' we went for the Spitfire.

Hope you are having as much fun as us!

 

Edited by gary145

The Spitfire is also an option for a two up twin trapeze cat, boasting a
competitive racing circuit and one of the fastest growing cat fleets of the
last two years.
Its made especially for lighter weight crews than the F18, Tornados etc
but still makes 20 knots plus downwind with the kite.
The boat weighs 139kg all up with ideal crew weight 135kg ish and costs
£7999.00.
Its a mixed fleet with a few husband/wife combos as well as all female
crews as well as 150kg beer bellies.

Its well worth a try, check out www.spitfiresailing.org.uk for photos,
videos and info.

Im a 55kg girl and I crew for a 95kg helm and we've had top 3 results in
all weathers.