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    Posted: 06 Jan 11 at 1:37pm
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Originally posted by funtimesailor

currently based down Penzance but will be relocating (somewhere) near/on the east coast. i would love to race competativly. fleet size isnt an issue as long as its a good group of people. but to start with some club sailing and idealy on the sea.


thanks for the advice so far!


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How far up or down the East Coast?

Brightlingsea or Wilsonian (Medway} are friendly and real dinghy clubs, and both almost on the sea!



I don't know Wilsonian but you are right about Brightlingsea a proper sailing club with access to great water. One day I hope to retire there......
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ive sailed b14s and they are really responsive and stable evreything was really calm in 30 knots i could let go of the twin tillers and they wouldnt move the drops are harder but you wont have to buy a new spinaker evrey year like i hear 400 owners complaining about
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Originally posted by lewis brown 29er

ive sailed b14s and they are really responsive and stable evreything was really calm in 30 knots i could let go of the twin tillers and they wouldnt move the drops are harder but you wont have to buy a new spinaker evrey year like i hear 400 owners complaining about

For real? 30 knots? you mean 18 knots on a lake surely?
I've owned 2 B14s and neither would stand up to that much wind! 

To be fair the kites last really well compared to the abuse a 400 kite takes going in and out a 8 inch triangular hole
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Originally posted by Jamesd

 

For real? 30 knots? you mean 18 knots on a lake surely?


Forum wind and Yoof....  having actually sailed, well got caught out actually, in 30 knots in the past, (that's a Force 7 which most dinghies aren't rated for btw) well, it's rarely stable, so you're looking for nearer 40 knot peaks in most cases, I can assure you I was sh*tting myself... I got ashore with a great sense of achievement, but I wouldn't willingly launch a dinghy in it again.

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I've been out once or twice in 30knots in the B (and many more in 25+), with two hefty sailors. "calm" is not a word I'd use to describe how it handles in those conditions, be it on the flat of a lake or the lumps of the sea. The only way a B is "calm" in 30 knots is on the land, wings folded in, cover on and tied securely whilst you're in the bar (where you may be swaying).
 
Though I was once blasting towards a sand bar at Hayling, called for a gybe and my helmed said "no" as the the extension he was holding needed reattached to the tiller. We kept it upright AND didn't run aground.


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Do you have a bit of a thing for rudderless sailing Al? ;-)
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I try to avoid it, but I fail! I think he reattached the stick mid gybe.
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Originally posted by alstorer

I try to avoid it, but I fail! I think he reattached the stick mid gybe.

thats showing off  LOL
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Dinghy Show coming up soon - go talk to the people on the stands and get a current opinion.
 
My partner and I chose the B14 because we not only loved the look of the boat and the way the boat sailed but we also chose it because of the class association. I still love the RS400 as a boat but unftorunately didn't tick all the boxes the B14 does
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Afternoon, it would seem that the thread is alive again. As previously said, if your skill  level (helm/crew) is up to it and the boat properly maintained, you can have a hoot in big winds.

One thing I should point out as well, is the repairing/replacing of any broken parts, is very reasonable as Seavolution has cut out all the middle men and runs a tight ship with all the bits tailored to the B14's requirements to keep it on the water for minimal financial input. Example, rather than having to buy say a whole boom and fittings etc, you can buy the sleeved tube and finish in an evening with a beer/tea or coffee. The advantage of having the builder/supplier being the team that did the development program from 2001 and sails currently in the class.

Anyone interested in the B14 come to the stand at the show and we'll see what we can do for you.
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