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    Posted: 16 Mar 10 at 9:49am
The changes  I would like to see are:

- so that a penalty taken for touching the mark has to be taken after a oat has left the zone. At present a boat that touches a windward mark as she comes in on port, can tack to round the mark then gybe straight back on to port and she has taken er penalty! Some penalty - a similar scenario can occur at a leeward mark.

- 18.2(e) seems to me over complicated ( and in team racing impossible to umpire) I believe that it should always be the case that if when an inside is obtained when the outside boat is unable to give room (a common occurence when sailing on rivers, for instance) then the outside boat should not be required to give room. At present this only applies if the overlap is obtained from clear astern. It is difficult enough to ascertain that an overlap has been obtained, that the outside boat was unable to give room without having to decide ow the overlap was obtained.

The match racers have changed this rule, but it may not yet be a satisfactory change. Expect another exciting installment soon.

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There is one advantage to having [seemingly] complicated rules. Most of us serious racers carry a rule book and are very aware of them even if it takes three cold chips and a few pint pots to deconstruct the situation post race.

I am amazed at the level of rules ignorance of some of the professionals in other sports, players, managers, commentators [ok commentators its the same in sailing] . Football and F1 come to mind.

My rule change

Rule 1. Priorité a Droite

No other rules, simples. Lets see the carnage of the French roads!

 

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Originally posted by Phil eltringham

Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by Phil eltringham


room should apply at a windward mark EVEN IF the boats are on
opposite tacks



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Not at all.  I can't remember when it was but it was something that
Andy Rice discussed in his column. It is no different that the situation you
get at the bottom of a run (starboard gate mark) where boats converge
on opposite gybes and a port boat can have an inside overlap and hence
rights over a starboard boat.  We are happy with this where the closing
speeds are higher, and options for getting out of the way are fewer.  It
will change the tactics required a lot, but if you've played a blinder up the
left, is it fair that you have to give it all up at the top mark because there
is no gap for you to file in on?  Granted the rules are what they are, and
right or wrong they are the same for everyone, but the question is what
would you like to change?  I would certainly like to try a few races like
that, just to see how it works in practice. 



This already possible, you just have a starboard first mark. This works
well in team and match racing, but as we all know as soon as you get
more than a few boats on the course it is a disaster.

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