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    Posted: 13 Dec 09 at 10:22am
Originally posted by Strangler


Now now you naughty boys and girls you are not allowed to call it a death roll, it scares beginners. Sailing schools call it a SPEED WOBBLE.


Shouldn't be teaching beginners dead runs anyway, "training runs" with a margin of error to reduce accidental crash gybes are the order of the day.
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Do you really want to teach new kids how to sail downwind in big death roll conditions. sorry I meant Pink fluffy Kitten speed wobble roll.

If anyone can say that during a death roll I'll send them a free video cammera to prove it
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Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by Strangler


Now now you naughty boys and girls you are not allowed to call it a death roll, it scares beginners. Sailing schools call it a SPEED WOBBLE.


Shouldn't be teaching beginners dead runs anyway, "training runs" with a margin of error to reduce accidental crash gybes are the order of the day.

I'm not an instructor, maybe the mere fact that beginners may overhear the term is enough to change the name! Or its too scarey for intermediates learning the run too?
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Was a big problem when I sailed a Contender and I think it happened mostly when the boom was a long way out on a run and a gust twists the leach away until it's exhausting out of the top. This drives the rig to windward. Pulling in a big armful of mainsheet (either 1:1 or 2:1) and a big steer away from the wind seemed to be enough to get things under control in most conditions...

I don't think it's fast though... although it has been said that a Contender goes quickest just before the point of no return, shortly after this point things get quite slow.



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yeah i think thats the same in most boats. i once asked big ben his tips for downwind sailing and he replied if you are just about to capsize, you are sailing fast haha
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Yea doesnt the hull speed doulbe during a gybe or something like that

Even if that is the case I am not Gybing all the way downwind
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