Rolling a new sail

   Firstly on the original topic:

Use guttering downpipe from B&Q. Dart 18 sailors have been using it for their jibs for years.

On the subject of replicas perhaps we need a new thread labelled "Should clubs allow replica sails?"

My point of view is that yes they should. This is based on the fact that those at the top of the club fleet will generally be the guys going to open meetings so will have official sails, the guys who regularly trawl around at the back of the fleet however are never going to improve to front runners with an imitation sail but it allows them to enjoy their boat at their club for less money and the simple fact that it keeps more boats on the water and bolters the fleet has to be good. To loose these guys from the sport just because Laser want to charge nearly £500 for a 7sqm sheet of Dacron is ludicrous.

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craiggo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote craiggo Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Rolling a new sail Posted: 02 Oct 08 at 12:47pm
	Firstly on the original topic: Use guttering downpipe from B&Q. Dart 18 sailors have been using it for their jibs for years. On the subject of replicas perhaps we need a new thread labelled "Should clubs allow replica sails?" My point of view is that yes they should. This is based on the fact that those at the top of the club fleet will generally be the guys going to open meetings so will have official sails, the guys who regularly trawl around at the back of the fleet however are never going to improve to front runners with an imitation sail but it allows them to enjoy their boat at their club for less money and the simple fact that it keeps more boats on the water and bolters the fleet has to be good. To loose these guys from the sport just because Laser want to charge nearly £500 for a 7sqm sheet of Dacron is ludicrous.

Captain Morgan Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Captain Morgan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 08 at 4:25pm
	Just out of interest, thinking about rolling a sail of mine - does anyone know where I can purchase a (long) sail bag? I've had a look at the Rooster ones, but surely they're not the only ones available!

Webmuppet Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 11 Mar 06 Location: Suffolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 534	Post Options Post Reply Quote Webmuppet Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 08 at 6:34pm
	I've just purchased two of the long Rooster sailing bags - nicely made and more to the point, distinctive, in a rigging area full of orange and blue Hyde bags Nigel
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radixon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407	Post Options Post Reply Quote radixon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 08 at 6:43pm
	Or the Blue, Red or White Laser sail bags. I like my Rooster one, even includes an area to write your name!!

Lukepiewalker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lukepiewalker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 08 at 9:06pm
	Most sailmakers will happily sell you a sailbag. Might not be in their catalogue, but they should have a few...
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Lukepiewalker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lukepiewalker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 08 at 9:08pm
	Not forgetting the eBay of course
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Captain Morgan Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Captain Morgan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 08 at 12:26pm
	Re: buying a spare sail bag - Thanks for your replies, I'll make some enquiries.

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 8:37am
	I bought a length of downpipe from Homebase, comes in a 3m length then just roll the sail round it and mark out how much you can trim off whilst leaving a bit sticking out each end. Don't forget that with a rolled sail it is good to unreoll it and reverse the direction of the roll if it is not used that often (and don't leave the battens in it as you will stretch the elastic (I leave mine in the 8.1 as it gets used every week and last time I took them out I hurt my fingers they were so tight). As for the replica sail by all means check with your club before you spend your hard earned. the ILCA/UKLA are not keen on them but until something is done about the useful life of the class sails then they are going to become more and more prevalent. If you are interested there is a debate going on (and some pictures) of the development sails for the Lasers over at the Laser Forum. Enjoy! I believe the InSails replica is very similar to the Intensity replica which is made of a firmer cloth. I have never found any issues with depowering it and it still looks good and is not stretched even after nearly a year of hard usage in heavy winds (it's pretty much the only time it comes out). As for sail bags I am not a fan of the Rooster long bags. They have coated the inside with a kind of rubbery material (I guess to keep the water in if you pack up wet). This is all very good but it makes the sail a right pain in the rear to get in to the bag (even when dry) and does not allow any moisture to escape if the thing is in storage. I prefer the Laser long bags, made of a thinner material but mich easier to use than the Rooster. I have my rooster one turned inside out so I can get the sails in and out without too much hassle. Edited by jeffers
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Captain Morgan Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Captain Morgan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 12:10pm
	Good point about the Rooster sail bags Jeffers - I wasn't aware that they were rubberised/waterproofed on the inside. They look good (apart from the kelloggs logo), but I don't want my wet sails to sweat inside a darkly-coloured sauna of a bag!