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    Posted: 02 Dec 06 at 4:35pm

Have just acquired a 30 year old (but well looked after) Mirror.

Although a geriatric I am effectively new to this lark, but the family seem keen and I am following in their wake (as it were).

The boat is perfectly sailable now, but needs a bit of tlc before the spring.  A little of the tape has dried out and come adrift around the gunwales.  It doesn't seem to be holding anything together.  Is it OK just to sand this down?

The hull has been painted several times & I would quite like to strip it and start again.  What is the best way to do this ... flat sander?  Paintstripper? Or what?

Would value the advice of you salty dogs.

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Sand, i would.  Get it nice and flat, then put a couple of coats on.  With tape, peel off the bits that are coming off anyway, and it might be best to put some more on.  May i direct you to the mirror forum, where they have some very expert advice:
www.ukmirrorsailing.com/cgi-bin/forums/default.asp



edit: that link doesn't seem to work, but if you copy and paste it into the browser, it should... (silly computer)

edit: should work now (Mark)



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Many thanks.  Got to the Mirror forum.  Will try there.
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Hi Richard

I recommend you also have a look at http://www.cvrda.org/ - there's loads of information about restoring dinghies in the forum.

Also http://www.trident-uk.com/shop/acatalog/index.html have loads of parts and advice for Mirrors.

You find Mirror parts for sale constantly on EBay too.

Best way to strip the paint is to use Nitromors stripper and wirewool followed by careful sanding with an orbital sander - make sure you don't sand through the tape - it holds the hull panels together!

Use fibreglass resin to reseal any loose tape. More tape can be bought from any chandler.

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Neil,

loads of really good marine restorartion products available from 2012 Marine.  www.2012marine.com

Click opn their Latest news and follow the link, not the easiest to get to but goldmine.....!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Barty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 07 at 6:45pm

OK here's a wild one.

I too have just got an old mirror and decided to strip it back to bare wood.  I have spent many years with Ents, nitromorse, sand paper and have always lost the will to live.  This is when I decided to try an 115mm angle grinder with 80 grit sanding pad on rubber backing plate !!!

The results.....if you are comfortable with this type of power tool, then it took me 3 hours to strip 98% of the paint, primer and undercoat off.  I think there was about 4 grooves where I went a little deep (not through the outer skin) then a good sand down with 120 grit and a conventional sander and they were gone.  I just took off the first 2mm of the tape where it stood proud and then lighting sanded it all over (not with the grinder).  Bit of 2 pac car filler and another sand and the boat is bare wood and fair.

No more nitromorse for me.....



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A random orbital sander is a bit safer than your angle grinder option!

If the paint isn't peeling or otherwise losing grip there's a lot to be said for just sanding back to undercoat/primer rather than bare wood. Apart from anything lese you'll be largely able to skip a stage and save an awful lot of fairing and filling.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Barty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 07 at 11:57pm
Granted that the less work method is better but just wanted to try out the idea and boy was it fast!!!!
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We used hot air guns on the Fireball when we did it. This seems to work on older paints but does not touch 2 pack paint systems.

The advantage of this ethod is that it dries the hull out nicely inside the tanks so you can slosh some thinned varnish round in them to help keep them happy.

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