false floor repair

   Being a fet fecker I have put my hoof through the false floor on my self draining phantom  
Its at a point where I can't reach it from the hatches, and even worse on a curved bit.  The damage covers about 5" square in total thats heel hole and cracks.  Any bright ideas, i was planning on cutting out the bad bit, putting a bigger piece underneath picture frame style, and once set cutting a matching top pice and try to bend it into place.  Does anyone know if 4mm ply will bend enough on that small a pice, or will the pressure push the back bit off? 
Difficult to explain, sorry!   Help please!

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mnorman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mnorman Report Post Quote Reply Topic: false floor repair Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 7:48pm
	Being a fet fecker I have put my hoof through the false floor on my self draining phantom Its at a point where I can't reach it from the hatches, and even worse on a curved bit. The damage covers about 5" square in total thats heel hole and cracks. Any bright ideas, i was planning on cutting out the bad bit, putting a bigger piece underneath picture frame style, and once set cutting a matching top pice and try to bend it into place. Does anyone know if 4mm ply will bend enough on that small a pice, or will the pressure push the back bit off? Difficult to explain, sorry! Help please!

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 8:22pm
	If the false floor is painted I'd use two pieces of thinner ply. You can get very thin birch ply from nmodel shops, two layers or whatever it takes, sand flush and bingo. If not then maybe you could try another picture frame on top, screwing through the two and using parcel tape to make sure itd doesn't stick to the bits you want to keep on the boat.

Olly4088 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 10 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 424	Post Options Post Reply Quote Olly4088 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 06 at 6:46pm
	I did that on my phantom when I had it. The problem witht he wooden phantoms is that they are built out of very thin wood to keep them light. I would advise that you take it to a proper repairer and get them to check it out cause it could be a bigger problem thatn you think as in rot. Sorry to put a dampner on things but that was what happened to mine, however yours may be newer than mine so it could just be you big hoof as you said. Its funny that the phantom is built for the bigger sailor yet is made out of thin materials. I think Jeff Vandeboughts epoxy ones are the way forward pricey but WELL worth the money trust me I had one to replace the wooden one.
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mnorman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mnorman Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 06 at 8:26pm
	Thanks for the advice, Olly its a gerry Ledger built 1039, pretty sure its not rot, seems to be a weak spot between the floor battens as I cracked the other side first day out!! This side has just parted at the joint on the boards and then gone crunch from there.

redback Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502	Post Options Post Reply Quote redback Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 06 at 10:31pm
	Just a thought, but it may not be suitable. Pull the broken bit back into place with screws or drill holes through to use hooked pieces of metal. Make sure its well soaked in resin so that when dry it stays in place. This won't be strong enough alone so then sand it down by a millimetre or 2 over an area much greater than the damage and glass over the whole thing untill its built up to the original level. Sand and paint. However if it has broken any ribbing underneath this won't do. In that case cut it out. Make short ribs which exceed the width of the hole and glass into place. Then make a patch which fits the hole and resin that into the hole. sand back deep enough around the perimeter of the hole to glass in some tape which overlaps the joint. Sand level and paint. West epoxy is the best sort of resin to use in these situations, but you'd be surpridsed what you can do with polyester.