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    Posted: 19 Aug 23 at 12:52pm
Not too difficult to get a 2000 'training' mainsail with reef points or look at some used Firefly sails or similar. I suspect the jib and it's furler is just that and not a reefing system so smaller sails would be a better option (and would preserve your relatively expensive class legal sails for 'proper' racing or other times when you can get full benefit from using them.



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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by mattyt82

I am 6ft 2 and 15 stone, so not a particularly small human

To my mind that's definitive. I think the Feva is a super little boat, but it ain't going to work with you at the back.

Agreed 100%

What attracts you to these two - strikingly dissimilar - boats over something like an Enterprise or Graduate?


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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by mattyt82

I am 6ft 2 and 15 stone, so not a particularly small human

To my mind that's definitive. I think the Feva is a super little boat, but it ain't going to work with you at the back.

Agreed 100%
What attracts you to these two - strikingly dissimilar - boats over something like an Enterprise or Graduate?



Specifically the Feva will be difficult to sail if you are helming….that much weight at the back will really challenge it.

I’m a huge proponent of the 2000 with children….mine crewed from 4 and 6 (inc racing) and then helmed.

If you go down the 2000 route then fit two to one jib sheets….makes life so much easier for a small crew.
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I want something really robust which these two seem to be. I have sailed Enterprises before and they are great boats. As said above will the right club then rent broth before buying anything. My daughter may hate it though she loves kayaking and paddleboarding so I am sure she will enjoy it.
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The thing with this for me is the boats are very different.

Feva: Small rotomold designed around two teenagers. RYA pathway class. Excellent racing circuit and training available if you want it. Good residual. Light weight, easy handle single handed and can cartop.

Laser/RS 2000: Large GRP hull designed for cruising and training. Very heavy (At least the laser ones are!), you won't pull one up the ramp on your own. Underpowered for weight. There is a racing circuit, but you only really hear about the nationals though this does attract good sailors. Condition varies, many are ex school boats and are battered. Private ones tend to be very good. These tend to attract a high price, and retain value. They're certainly robust!

The best of both worlds would be (IMO) a Hartley 15, but you don't see many secondhand. 
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I understand they are two different boats. I know exciting and trainer do not always go together, and I understand the 2000’s are heavy. I did also look at the Leader 2 but was not sure? 🤔
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In the time honoured forum tradition of not answering the question asked...I would put more bluntly what others are suggesting. Sailing, and especially with a 10 Yr old, is much better as a social sport. Find the sailing club you like and see what they sail. I suspect that if your daughter likes it she will soon cast old dad aside and start sailing toppers etc with her friends .In the 2000 favor versus the Leader, if you don't like it you will easily be able to sell it on.
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I think a lot depends on the daughter -  my daughter only wants to crew (only with Dad) she lacks the confidence to sail with anyone else let alone try a singe hander.  For her the 2000 would be ideal - we sail Laser II together but she started a little later than 10.  However an out going competitive young lady (inspired by the Lionesses) would love a Feva and in no time you would be replaced by a friend and they will have a great time without you.  You will also have come to realise that a Feva is not that comfortable for an adult.  You can sit back and see she has acquired a life long love of sailing - we have a number of 70+ sailing at our club.
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^^agreed^^

From the residual POV neither boat is a big risk and if you think she'll take to it like a duck to water the Feva is the better of the two for two teenagers by far. And if it isn't / she doesn't you can find a better boat to sail together after 12 months maybe?


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