Boom up Capsize

   Was having a great race….. down wind rapid capsize and the boom is pointing sky wards and we where being pushed down wind quickly. I was near dagger board, if I’d have tried to get on the deck side and pulled on the main sheet the boat would have sailed away. The forces, speed of drift made getting on the board impossible. I moved towards the bow and eventually the boat rounded up, the boom fell back to the water and I could right easily….. my hard earned gains had all been lost. 
And hits on recovery from a boom up capsize 

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tink Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789	Post Options Post Reply Quote tink Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Boom up Capsize Posted: 11 Mar 22 at 7:53pm
	Was having a great race….. down wind rapid capsize and the boom is pointing sky wards and we where being pushed down wind quickly. I was near dagger board, if I’d have tried to get on the deck side and pulled on the main sheet the boat would have sailed away. The forces, speed of drift made getting on the board impossible. I moved towards the bow and eventually the boat rounded up, the boom fell back to the water and I could right easily….. my hard earned gains had all been lost. And hits on recovery from a boom up capsize
	Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com

Do Different Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312	Post Options Post Reply Quote Do Different Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 22 at 8:44pm
	Sounds like you bossed it.

Grumpycat Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grumpycat Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 22 at 8:51pm
	Look at mr roosters videos

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 22 at 10:26pm
	Depends on the boat but with the boom up I suspect you would have turtled very quickly if you'd tried to climb up the deck side. I'm not sure there is a standard method of recovery in that situation and it will certainly be class dependent. If it's blowing these days I use some kind of masthead float, I'm sure to slows me down a little around the course but in a 7 foot deep lake the time saved keeping the mast out of the mud and the extra little bit of confidence more than compensates.
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deadrock Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 24 Jun 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote deadrock Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 22 at 12:03pm
	Here's a technique that might prove useful in windy conditions. I can only speak for the ILCA, but it might work for any similar boat which doesn't fill with water. It wouldn't work with a Solo, for instance. If the boat is still pointed roughly downwind after a windward capsize, and the boom is still up in the air, keep your body in the water as though you're still sailing, with feet under the toestraps. Pull the sheet in so that the sail angle is about 40 degrees to the water surface: the wind will get under the sail and right the boat, and you can sail off looking as though you meant to do it. If you're lucky it takes only a few seconds. Discovered by accident several years ago, after seeing boardsailors do waterstarts. Only works in F4+, I guess, but it's worth a try, a lot quicker than trying to right the boat any other way.

davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 22 at 3:44pm
	I would always do a San Francisco roll after windy windward capsize, in light winds might take my time for the boat to align to the wind, since you might end up holding onto the plate under the boat! If you get the chance before righting, let the kicker off, it will make the righting process much easier. To prevent the capsize read Start to Win by Eric Twiname
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Oatsandbeans Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oatsandbeans Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 22 at 5:21pm
	I would be interested to see how Eric Twiname said you should avoid a windward capsize

deadrock Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 24 Jun 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote deadrock Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 22 at 5:30pm
	To quote from Eric Twiname: 'You can counteract the kind of windward capsize in three ways if you act quick enough: 1. Push the helm hard away from you and immediately . . . 2. Pull in the mainsheet 3. Have the crew nip smartly from his sitting out position to the middle of the boat.' Start to Win, p. 36. Edited by deadrock - 12 Mar 22 at 5:44pm

Oatsandbeans Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oatsandbeans Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 22 at 5:56pm
	Yes-he never mentioned bearing away!

Gordon 1430 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Jun 17 Location: Lee on Solent Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gordon 1430 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar 22 at 4:26pm
	Did the classic yesterday, first time out this year, thought I needed to practice my tacking on the 4th or 5th came out the tack hiked out but hadnt put my feet under the toe straps, splash. DOH!
	Gordon Phantom 1430