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   Jack Sparrow  
   
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     Topic: 12 footersPosted: 23 Jan 06 at 12:50pm  | 
 
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   A couple of pics before the sail size increase ( 2005 rules ) Fyfe and C-
 
   
   
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   Granite  
   
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     Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 10:05pm | 
 
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   If you want to sail 12's in the UK why not start by buying a UK Cherub
and if you enjoy it and want to do more then you can sell it without
loosing much money and import a 12 
   
   
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   Prince Buster  
   
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     Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 10:20pm | 
 
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   Can someone actually tell me the difference between a 12ft skiff , an R
Class, and a Cherub?  Ive always been under the impression that a
12 just has more sail area but what are the real differences?
    
   
   
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     Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 12:41am | 
 
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   look through some of the other threads its been explained enough times previously
    
   
   
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   Skiffe  
   
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     Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 10:35am | 
 
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    Follow these links for the class rules and work it out for yourself. http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/chframe.php?menu=home http://www.skiff.org.au/images/pdf/NSW12ft_skiff_measurement _rules.pdf http://www.rclass.org/info/rrules Sorry but as you asked, your homework for tonight is to dissect the rules and post a reply, laying out the differences 
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     Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 6:29pm | 
 
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   R's are 12-ft 9", No Min weight. Restricted to 13.5? upwind and kites 
 
   
   
  must fit in a circumference of X? can't remember that bit. 12's are 12-ft long ( they may have move to 3.7 metric ), 45-kg ( without pole ) min weight and unrestricted sail plan. UK Cherubs are 3.7m or 12-ft 1.4", min weight 50-kg (with retracting pole), restricted to 15.5 upwind 21 downwind. AU Cherubs are single wire with less sail than all the above and a load more restrictions. Here's the AU Cherub site for comparison. http://www.cherub.org.au Like the other posters have said best to have a look at the respective classes websites and find out the details. [QUOTE=Prince Buster] Can someone actually tell me the difference between a 12ft skiff , an R Class, and a Cherub? Ive always been under the impression that a 12 just has more sail area but what are the real differences?<!-- Edited by Jack Sparrow  | 
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