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    Posted: 01 Nov 19 at 7:27pm
Get good at getting onto the wind quickly (or actually pinching like hell if needs be) to stop boats just behind you from getting their noses in as you start the upwind leg. Force them to go to leeward into your crappy wind.
Conversely, if you are the boat which is being stuffed, tack.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 19 at 8:35pm
After the sausage silliness starting to get practical 

Leeward mark specifically, I loose loads there. 
Generally a couple of boats ahead off and have a luffing match, I sail the best VMG to the mark, some guy will be off to the left. We all meet at the mark and, I don’t want to hit anyone and can’t figure tactics and equate the situation to the rules and end up rounding last 
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All things being even, keep yourself to the "left" approaching a leeward mark, be on the inside and/or coming in on starboard. Control boat speed and be in charge at the mark.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 19 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by H2

Never under estimate a Flying Fifteen's ability to head directly into the wind and ghost over the windward mark that it was not laying. Also never imagine that a FF sailor has any desire or belief in the general rules of sailing as they do not apply to them as a class.

Just shout 'Mast Abeam' I am told FF sailors love that, might make them spit their pipes out though.

On topic, I will often 'give up' on a fight down to the leeward mark, slowing and grabbing the inside line can pay handsomely (just be prepared for it not to).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ColPrice2002 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 19 at 8:39pm
On Sunday we had a good example of leeward mark tactics:-
Bunch of singlehanded running to the mark (starboard rounding) in light airs.
A 200 decided to keep the kit up and round well outside, I slowed down (being outside the group).
As the group rounded, they all drifted downwind of the mark leaving me a nice gap. Quick reach into the gap,harden up and I'm level with them and to windward.
Moral:- don't get caught in a raft around the leeward mark..

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A good one at the windward mark in a decent fleet (Port Rounding). The safe thing to do is get out to the stbd tack lay line early and join the queue stacking out way above the lay line. It's huge risk in a big fleet if you aren't in the first 10 or so boats. But taking a stbd tack a few boat lengths under the lay line, tack onto port 50 yds or so short of the mark, you can often just tack into the gap left by those that have overstood. This has gone horribly wrong a few times (having to bear away behind 20-30 stbd tackers). But for me, it's paid off more times than not. In todays reduced fleets, defo worth the risk.
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