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Rupert
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Topic: Types of coursePosted: 17 Jun 19 at 9:29pm |
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3 fetches and 2 runs was my least favourite recent course, but giant triangles with 2 broad reaches, interspersed with sausage runs are only made worse by taking the broad reaches away and just leaving the sausage. Just tedious in the extreme. At least the fetches and runs was a mistake.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 17 Jun 19 at 9:58pm |
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This just goes to reinforce what a thankless task RO can be
and I've just volunteered for an extra Wednesday night duty in July (my first as RO at L&LSC).Whatever you do you'll leave somebody dissatisfied, W/L course? The assy's will be delighted but the Solos and Enterprises will be baying for blood, all beats and reaches you'll have a posse of 400's waiting behind the boat shed for you........ You just can't win.......
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gbr22114
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Posted: 20 Jun 19 at 9:26am |
Amen to that
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Posted: 20 Jun 19 at 9:31am |
Obviously I need to pay more attention to how asymmetrics perform on different legs (aside from constantly taking my wind) - I don't understand why they wouldn't do reaching well. RO is indeed a tricky job, glad I only have to do it once this season
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gbr22114
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Posted: 20 Jun 19 at 9:38am |
I think you hit the nail right there - broad appeal is key, and a bit of fun is a huge part of it for lots of people. I used to be more at the competitive end of attitudes, but eventually realised that I was getting too annoyed at stuff (either other sailors or my own mistakes), and that I wasn't enjoying my hobby properly. These days I want to sail for enjoyment and will quite happily quit a race if it isn't pushing any buttons for whatever reason - though of course I understand that others enjoy what I find boring and vice versa.
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JimC
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Posted: 20 Jun 19 at 9:56am |
Its complicated between different classes, but very high performance boats (asymmettric or otherwise) only sail at one downwind angle in any given wind strength, which gives them both the best vmg and greatest speed thro' the water. So if the reach is tighter than the magic angle then they'll either have to go high and hoist late, or else struggle to make the mark (usually very slow). If on the other hand its broader than the magic angle then they'll have to gybe down to the mark just as if it were a run. But on a run they are hitting max speed and can pick their moment to gybe etc, whilst the slower boats are stuck bobbling down on the slowest point of sailing. When you get to slower asymmettrics esp in light winds, where max vmg and max speed do not coincide, then its a bit more complicated. There's nothing different about the physics between pole kite and asymmetric kite boats, its just that most pole kite rigs are so inefficient with short poles and small balloon shaped sails that they don't really have a magic angle to the extent something like a 49er does. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 20 Jun 19 at 10:11am |
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Also, when you are maxed out with an assy you have to bear away as they are impossible to depower.
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Posted: 20 Aug 19 at 10:01pm |
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Get your RO to look at these
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