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    Posted: 06 Jan 17 at 7:46pm
Never sailed one but the 800 does look a daunting prospect for an inexperienced team. I suppose few helms or crews would buy one without a fair bit of either single wire or big assy experience.
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Originally posted by rb_stretch

As soon as the crew needs to handle the mainsheet, then the boat can no longer be used by scratch, new, still learning crews.

Its up to the CA of course, but if you don't mandate anything then each crew can choose what suits them best. In my Cherub days some folk sailed one way, some the other. There was a partial consensus that forward hand taking the sheet was probably potentially marginally faster for teams with the appropriate skill levels, but the difference was certainly not world shaking.
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At the Phwelli nationals a father and son turned up with an 800 having just completed their RYA L2. While they were unusual to go for that boat as their first it does highlight that the 800 is reasonably docile.
The Spice is a far trickier boat to sail than the 800 in part due to being shorter.
I was given the loan of Wet and Windy's demo SPICE back in 1999 for the Topper Eurocup in Carnac but unfortunately there weren't enough Spices entered to run them. Only the ISOs Buzz's and Boss's got to play.
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Maybe I'd get on well with an 800 then :). I bought the Spice after 30 years out of dinghy sailing (but I was racing Raceboards during that time) and found it quite manageable up to F5.

OTOH I have  a mate who has moved from a 505 to a 500 last year, his crew finds the 500 much more tippy than the 5oh. And another mate, 20 years my junior but of similar sailing ability, has bought a Musto and a 49er in the last two years. He's also in the enviable position of being able to hire a pro sailor/coach to teach him to sail them. He is far from mastering either, or even keeping them upright most of the time so far. I may get a sail in his Musto this year so I can get a handle on just how difficult they are but my capabilities are probably more Enterprise than 49er these days.

Not unsatisfied with the current 'fleet' though, Spice is still challenging in any amount of wind and if I had a regular, experienced crew........ Blaze will, hopefully, be a little more benign but I'm not expecting to be sailing anything more extreme with any success in the forceable future.


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