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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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The "turkeys" had the third biggest UK nats last year. Pretty brilliant going for a class that hasn't got the 'artificial' support of squad or International designation.
How are the classes that update all the time going? Seen a big Mistral regatta lately? With three out of the top six being RS classes* perhaps it's reasonable to think that they may have just the teeniest bit of an idea about how to generate and maintain interest in the sport? * the Y&Y listings put the Moth nats in the top 4 but IMHO it doesn't count as it includes international boats competing in the worlds.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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It is all about marketing and distribution. I think we all agree they are pretty good at that. Plus the class association has the backing of professional people (paid staff) to do a lot of the admin leg work for them. This is reflected in the fees, £40 or so for full membership of the RS Assoc with the Fireball being £20 for the same membership.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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Nope- the marketing and distribution get the initial batch of boats out the door.
It's the quality of the racing on offer that keeps them coming back. The RS200 stakeholders (class, builder, owners) seem to have this nailed. I'd stop a long way short of calling any of them turkeys with this product, or the life cycling of the consumables- it's the best of its ilk imho.
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The RS membership you get to sail any of the RS boats though... so it's maybe not a completely fair comparison (although I only sail a 200...).
I think the marketing of RS helps getting boats off the ground, but after a few years it's not a big factor. Much more important is the demographic of the fleet which is determined by the ideal weight and the roles of the crew. Then you have external factors that determine how many people fit that demographic. The 200 hasn't dipped below 80 boats at a nationals in 16 years, and the lower number before this were due to it being anew class (deigned in 1995)... (only Topper and Oppy beat this record, but they are single handed (not as many people), and are youth supported. What would be interesting would be to see the female participation. I'd wager the 200 has the highest female participation of any class outside of youths and juniors (and it's probably pretty similar to them). The top of the fleet is a roughly 50-50 split. I think that, coupled with the fact that you can pick up any old boat and be competitive, has a lot more to do with popularity of the 200 than anything else; especially with younger sailors.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Certainly a few years ago when I did some number crunching of data for higher performance (two string) two handers) there was a strong correlation between % of female sailors and champs turnout, and no other numbers I looked at had any relationship at all.
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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The 200 is a lovely boat to sail, it's well made and simple to sail. Not to mention some great class racing. No suprise it's a formula for success.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The only class that may beat the 200 on female sailor % would be the Firefly. Again, a class with a strong party ethos...
The Larks used to as well. The 200 not being a Uni boat makes it more surprising, though. |
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