Mark rounding/windward boat

   Rupert - you are correct in stating that the room to be given is the room needed by the entitled boat. A Flying Dutchman on the inside will need more room than an Optimist

In the same way the zone is defined as 3 hull lengths of the boat nearer to the mark.

On the other hand when rule 17 is in operation the proper course in question is the proper course of the leeward boat.

These precisions should be enough to ensure that the rules work for mixed fleets.

In your unsuccessgul protest did you argue that the leeward, right of way boat, had an obligation, under rule 16, to give you room to keep ckear when she changed course.

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gordon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037	Post Options Post Reply Quote gordon Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Mark rounding/windward boat Posted: 03 Oct 13 at 12:09pm
	Rupert - you are correct in stating that the room to be given is the room needed by the entitled boat. A Flying Dutchman on the inside will need more room than an Optimist In the same way the zone is defined as 3 hull lengths of the boat nearer to the mark. On the other hand when rule 17 is in operation the proper course in question is the proper course of the leeward boat. These precisions should be enough to ensure that the rules work for mixed fleets. In your unsuccessgul protest did you argue that the leeward, right of way boat, had an obligation, under rule 16, to give you room to keep ckear when she changed course.
	Gordon

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Oct 13 at 12:20pm
	She had given me room, there was no collision, so that side of things was fine. I guess the question was, at what point did the rights of the leeward boat kick back in again after mark room was given. The answer, logically, was as soon as the inside boat was clear of the mark. As there was no tide, I would have been able to get clear (I think I tacked off, but too late) as soon as my transom was clear. In adverse tide, I would think that if being forced to tack off then pushes you back down onto the mark, you would still need mark room?
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Presuming Ed Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641	Post Options Post Reply Quote Presuming Ed Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Oct 13 at 10:18am
	Leeward never lost her rights, nor obligations under 14/16.1. If leeward luffs in such a way that the only way you, as windward, can comply with 11 is by tacking and hitting the mark, then she has broken 16.1. If her luff complies with 16.1 and you have the option of luffing, sailing high and slow, but decide not to do that and tack off instead, and as a result hit the mark then you are in breach of 31.