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    Posted: 10 Jul 12 at 6:15pm
And the cvrda route of ensuring that average laps are calculated properly and DNF is worth more points than DNC Wink 
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you have to go down the cvrda route - multiple boat options.  If it's windy for the next event I shall take either the cherub with a thin crew or the kestrel with a fat crew.  If it's medium I shall take the ToY or the low rider, if it's light I shall take the classic moth.  One of these days I will finish the 14 and that will do for light or medium, crew whatever size he/she likes...


the same, but different...

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Weight equalisation system........
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I don't agree- I reckon the most anyone would realistically carry would be 3 sails, and in fairness the one you use the least you'd probably buy cheaper/ 2nd hand, or make out of Dacron if it's the 'heavy wind sail'.

They'll all obviously last longer through less use too.

As for the 300... open choice, once per season on the circuit.  They ditch w/eq years ago.
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"I've long since been an advocate of 'choose your weapons', 12/18 ft skiff style. And to the 'arms race argument'... do one... it's dinghy sailing, it's not cheap and another rag to make the boat more accessible is not going to prevent anyone from joining in. In fact, given that it opens-up the wind and weight range if free choice is allowed to stand then imho, it makes the 'toy' more usable. If something's more usable I'd be confident you'd get more people joining in longer term."
 
Hmm.  For sailing maybe,  but for serious racing?  If you don't work for a sail loft or boat builder but fancy your chances of winning, it is going to get very expensive if you feel obliged to turn up with a quiver of (new?) sails for every championship.   And at the extremes of weather, if you have a free choice of sail size, there will be times when you will be at an advantage, depending on your weight i.e.  (BFT6: Heavy bloke vs. light bloke both using a small sail; BFT0 - 1: light bloke vs heavy bloke both using the biggest sail.)  But I guess over much of the sailable wind range it becomes a more even contest.
 
Showing my ignorance for a moment, how is sail choice currently controlled in classes like the RS300?  Are you allowed to use two sizes of sail in the same race series?  Is the size determied by personal choice or body weight according to class rules?  
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... I can see it now.  Banks of spin bikes in abandoned Government warehouses.  All directly connected to the national grid with scores of fat people lined up outside, drafted in to play their part in Graeme's big green energy/ economy recovery programme.  

You could even install big screens showing Paul McKenna in 'Think Yourself Thin' on permanent loop.

- lose weight
- make friends
- create electricity
- sell excess electricity generated to China, and pay off the sovereign debt

what's not to like? I'll vote for it.
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LOL
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Some good news at least

You waste more space, breath more air, consume more cloth concealing all that blubber and if I ever get into power will be consigned to Fat Camps where they turn all Phantom Sailors into the final Solution
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Well you see short and skinny people do consume more of the world's financial resources than you may initially think.

for example clothing... why is that whenever there's a sale on, it's only the small (and occasionally) medium t-shirts that are left in it?  Simples... short/skinny folks demand they get treated equally, so shop stock up but then they get left with it.  When in truth everyone knows that short people can't afford nice stuff anyway.    

Now you don't need an economics degree to know that a shop selling its smaller sizes at sub-cost at the end of the season needs inflated profit elsewhere to sustain the model... in other words, us regular blokes in L and XL T-Shirts are subbing your sale items at our 'inflated' RRP.

And the irony is.... there's already a special area of the store for you guys. It's called the Children's Section... please go buy your t-shirts there, and don't bleat about the prices... shoes are VAT free for your little feet too.  

I hear even Dakine does a kids range these days and you might get a free lollipop if you shop in the right children's section... you look like you need the calories. 


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Once the volume of the boat and the size of the sail reach a given and I don't have the maths to prove it right here, but with boards, 9 mtr sail and 265+ ltrs about did it, but the light weights have to down sail size pdq.

So, there's no reason that a boat can't do the same then let us not selfish folk who don't take up too much room, consume tons more than our fellows, cost more to transport, not to mention burden the NHS or wear out pavements with our excess weight, get to use wider wings..
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