New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Where to drop the kite
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Where to drop the kite

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
ellistine View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 06 Mar 08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 762
Post Options Post Options   Quote ellistine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Where to drop the kite
    Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 11:39pm
Where's the best place to aim to drop an asymm kite in
relation to the bottom mark?

We've always aimed to be as close to the mark as possible
and slightly above it for a more downwind drop. Most
often it does mean the mrs is still sorting out sheets
when I'm heading up.

If you look at this video from today at 3:30 they drop
the kite miles from the mark and scream in to it on a
beam reach. Is that normal?

http://blip.tv/file/3852
294
Back to Top
AlexM View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 10 Jan 06
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 857
Post Options Post Options   Quote AlexM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 8:36am
in the chute or bag
Back to Top
asterix View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 01 Aug 09
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 621
Post Options Post Options   Quote asterix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 8:52am
on top of the laser you have just caught up;-)
Back to Top
timnoyce View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 05 Aug 04
Location: Hampshire
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1991
Post Options Post Options   Quote timnoyce Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 9:13am
Well in the video they have a leeward gate so the reaching across is to get them to their favoured side for the next upwind leg. Also, a 49er is rapid on a 2 sail reach, so they haven't really lost as much as you would in a slower boat if you were to drop off the plane.

We always try and drop as late as possible so that you are ready for upwind soon enough to get a good tight rounding and hold your lane out of the mark. Getting the crew back out on the wire and the boat moving right away is much more important than tidying the kite sheets. This can be done later once you are settled on the new point of sail. Judging when to drop obviously comes with practise, too early and you lose speed downwind, too late and you muck up your rounding. I would suggest that dropping early is quicker whilst you are improving. Making sure your systems all run smoothly is also good as it gives you massive confidence, there is nothing more demoralising than having a big snag and trawling with the kite whilst all the boats you overtook just sail over the top of you again.

I always have a nightmare with kite sheets and halyards being everywhere in the boat, but a lot of other boats in the fleet have bungee systems which tidy the sheets when the kite is down. Might be worth looking into this so that it saves your good lady a job ;-)

If you haven't seen 'Higher and Faster', it is well worth a look as they run through lots of options on all points of sail, allbeit in newer more modern boats but you will still find most of it applicable. I think there was another video shot years ago shot in 4k's but not sure of the name!
BEARFOOT DESIGN
Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb
Back to Top
ellistine View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 06 Mar 08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 762
Post Options Post Options   Quote ellistine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 10:17am
Originally posted by timnoyce

I think there was another video shot years
ago shot in 4k's but not sure of the name!


Now that would be interesting! Yes, I have 'Higher and
Faster'. Infact, each time I see Peter Greenhalgh at the
WPNSA I can't help thinking 'Give it some salad!'
Back to Top
stuarthop View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 22 Dec 04
Location: Nottingham
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1040
Post Options Post Options   Quote stuarthop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 10:38am
The one shot in 4/5k's was called high performance sailing. I may still have it on video somewhere at my parents house.

Back to Top
Skiffybob View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 04 Dec 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 842
Post Options Post Options   Quote Skiffybob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 1:34pm

Originally posted by ellistine

Where's the best place to aim to drop an asymm kite in
relation to the bottom mark? 

Not in the water, is a good start

12ft Skiff - Gordon Keeble and the Furry Fly-by
AC - GBR271 - Whoosh
B49 - Island Alchemy
Back to Top
JimC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6662
Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by Skiffybob

Not in the water, is a good start
Not on top of the mark is a good option too...

More seriously its better to two sail to the mark than run to the mark after the kite drop, so I prefer to end that way. Also if you look like ending up below the mark its better to drop early and two sail at full speed to the mark than struggle with the oat on its ear to get there with the rag up.
Back to Top
asterix View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 01 Aug 09
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 621
Post Options Post Options   Quote asterix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Skiffybob

Not in the water, is a good start

does anyone have a ratchet in their kite halyard system to stop it dropping in the water as soon as you uncleat the uphaul?  if so what sort of ratchet do you use and where do you put it in the system?

Back to Top
JimC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6662
Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by asterix

does anyone have a ratchet in their kite halyard system to stop it dropping in the water as soon as you uncleat the uphaul? 

The helmsman's foot usually performs that function, whilst at the same time he will be denying he's got his foot on anything...
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy