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    Posted: 06 Dec 09 at 8:42pm
We're looking for a stable, GRP/plastic dinghy and would
like some advice please.

We weigh 125kg (50+75) and in many ways something like a
GP14 would suit although the ease of handling the much
lighter Pico is vey tempting. I know that Picos are
extremely stable with a lightweight on board but, am I
right in thinking that the stability will be compromised
by our combined weight & we'll be going swimming
regularly? Would we swim less with a GP?

You might have gathered by now that we don't enjoy being
dunked in cold, salty water so we'd love to hear your
comments, especially if you have experience of 2 adults
on a Pico.

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To be honest, you will go nowhere very slowly as well as constantly being in each other's way.  In short, the Pico is too small for two adults.

There are many other boats that would suit you that could still be lighter than a GP.  Where are you sailing, and what are the boats most often sailed there?  Do you want to race or cruise?  What is your budget?  What is your skill level?

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get another laser like a 2000 or maybe a rs 400?

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Originally posted by ham4sand

get another laser like a 2000 or maybe a
rs 400?


RS400. Really?
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2000 is a good suggestion, RS Vision might be worth looking at but a 400 is a very very powerful boat compared to a Pico.

really if you don't want the occassional dunk then you ought to be looking at a keelboat not a dinghy.  What is it about capsizing?  If its just the cold buy a drysuit and decent gloves - problem solved.

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Laser 13, if you want something to potter around in thats cheap, reliable and stable.

 

RS400 is a stupid sugestion for someone looking to sail a Pico and doesn't wan t to be swimming loads!

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Hi Guys

Thanks for your replies - I'm glad I asked. Here's a
little more info to help you help us: we're returning to
dinghy sailing after a long break, we're getting on a bit
& we'd rather not handle a heavy boat on land (eg
Wayfarer) or recover from several capsizes on the trot
(even though I had a proper Laser in the past and plenty
practise righting it)! We're into pottering now on the
Norfolk Broads where the water is smooth but the wind can
be very gusty. So we're looking for a compromise, ie a
boat which is light but stable (mutually exclusive I
know) to suit two smallish adults, at the sacrifice of
speed, preferably under £2k. All suggestions welcome.
       
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Laser 13 would be a great boat for what your after and would definately fit 2 or more full sized adults.  £2k fhould easily buy you one.
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I agree about the RS400. 

I also think a Laser 2000 might be a bit more of a handful than you are looking for (as well as probably being too expensive even 2nd hand).  They are stable, but do capsize occasionally (depending on how you sail them) and then they have a habit of turtling pretty fast.  They are also a good few kilos to haul up the beach/slipway at the end of the day.

Strangely (?) there is a L2000 called Rob Roy



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There are all sorts of older designs that would suit, and can be bought for 00's not 000's. The Otter and Gull can both be found in GRP, and in plywood there are all the boats from the 60's home build boom. The Mirror is the most common, but a look through here  http://www.cvrda.org/dinghydata/index.htm will help you spend an idle hour in contemplation!

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