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    Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 9:04am

Originally posted by winging it

I think the reason to get a Mirror is that at the club where these guys are sailing they are quite a popular class.  At the moment a fair few of them sail socially, and I have already been asked to run some Mirror race training for them next year. 

I think thye could get a cheapie Mirror and have a lot of fun learning in it, before they go on to the next step.

Don't forget the 2 that are starting to race regularly now (ok I think one of them is a squad boat). Would be good to see some more Mirrors, if a fleet got going I would consider purchasing one to take my little 'un round in.

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Originally posted by drifter

Graduate. Cheap as chips and embarrass many other classes in inland waters predominantly light winds. Will teach you tactics too. Defo some Grads at Hunts.

Your are partially correct. There is 1 Grad that sails occasionally through the summer (lack of crew I think is the reason) and another (from the same family) that 'visits' and sails.

There maybe a few others in the boat park but they have not moved in years...

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I think the reason to get a Mirror is that at the club where these guys are sailing they are quite a popular class.  At the moment a fair few of them sail socially, and I have already been asked to run some Mirror race training for them next year. 

I think thye could get a cheapie Mirror and have a lot of fun learning in it, before they go on to the next step.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MattK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 09 at 9:57pm
don't get a mirror unless you have ambitions to go through the squads,
there is no other reason to get one, unless you want a boat to sail row and
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 09 at 9:48pm
There have been some grads at Hunts (and may well still be) but there is a burst of actiivty amongst the GPs at them moment, particularly with fathers and sons.
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Graduate. Cheap as chips and embarrass many other classes in inland waters predominantly light winds. Will teach you tactics too. Defo some Grads at Hunts.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 09 at 4:39pm
another good choice for Hunts.  I am sure we could arrange a test sail at some point.
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how about a gp14?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 09 at 7:41pm
Right, now I know who you are I would suggest either something like an Enterpsie, or a GP14 - growing in favour amongst the father/son combos at Hunts - or maybe even a Mirror.  There may well be some Mirror training in the foreseeable future.  Someone else on the same course as your Dad has a Mirror and might be prepared to take you out or let your Dad have a go.

And don't go imagining the Mirror is tame:




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Having sailed a 420 for about 3 years with weights ranging from 110 - 130kgs id say 115kgs would be fine in most wind strengths in my opinion. Of course this depends how much weight is on the wire! (if you're using the wire that is!).

Im presuming you'd be looking at an older one but as mentioned above the older ones do become uncompetative! If you look at nationals results you'll see that very few are below around sail no. 51000ish. You can pick these up relitively cheaply though around that number and they normally have masses of sails too!

When i first started sailing 420s i sailed with my dad and it was pretty good fun! The only thing hard to get to grips with is sailing them slightly off the wind. Also, an enterprise isnt a hell of a lot slower than a 420 at all! It depends on the wind strength, it'd only be a hell of a lot slower in stronger wind...



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