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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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Hi Guys, Im sure i have read somewhere on here that you can't just use normal rivets on a carbon mast, but i cant find the thread anywhere. Question is where do i purchase these special rivets that dont squash the mast? I know you have to put that special paste on to stop the corosion! Cheers
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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Are rivets really the only way to attach what you want to attach?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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There aren't any special rivets that don't damage the mast. That's why rule one is don't use rivets. The effect can be minimised by very careful fitting, most especially making sure the hole you drill is exactly the right size, but in general fittings should be bonded on, not riveted. Rivets are used on the mass production rigs because they are so much cheaper than doing the job properly.
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stuarthop ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 04 Location: Nottingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 1040 |
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You can buy carbon specific rivets. I'm not sure where from as i've always carboned any fittings onto carbon spars or got the rivets out of stock at work. (at my last job not alverbanks). They do compress in a slightly different way to normal rivets
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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Its the haliard cleat at the top of my 300 mast, the old one is worn out and the haliard slips, so i have drilled the old rivets out, but the rivet holes are fairly large, to large for screws really, how do i bound an alloy cleat to the top of the mast? surely it will get pulled out?
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Ideally you'd use something high quality, but I reckon even West will do the job well enough. Pick a good day for doing it though, and ideally don't use it for a week.
The key here is surface prep. Sand down both surfaces well, using something like 400 grit paper. Clean them both well with acetone (use white paper towel/kitchen roll- it's clean when this stays clean). I'd reckon you want to thicken up the resin a little. This will do two things- for one, it'll help shim the gap (the two surfaces won't be the same shape!) and secondly, a slightly thicker bondline (up to a point) helps the strength of the bond (in peel loading). |
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file the holes then re drill and also stick it back on using a sealent called sticaflex great stuff i use it on my fishing boat stick like glue to anything it comes in either black or white
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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Cheers Jack thats just what i was looking for.
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