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Wee Man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 214 |
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We have a job coming up in work using a lot of 6mm Dyneema.....3000m to be exact. Does anyone know how much this is likely to stretch when loaded up to about a tonne & a half? |
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About 1% (30m) I think, at those loads. But don't take my word for it - check with the rope supplier.
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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Peaky is right but be careful. What the supplier will quote is stretch but you must also consider the creep.
The individual strands will stretch STRETCH The overall rope is made of many woven strands and as they straighten the rope appears to get longer CREEP We fell foul of this when we used a hell of a lot of vectran in the Invictus C-class cat. The vectran hardly stretched but it crept a huge amount over the long lengths used to the point that we couldnt deflect the trailing edge when under load even though we'd pulled about 4ft through the cleat! Edited by craiggo |
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Roy Race ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 275 |
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There's an easy way to demonstrate this: Pull the core
out of a piece of spectra rope, go into your garage and use it to suspend your lawnmower / road base / dumbells or some other such heavy item from the garage ceiling and about 1" off the ground. Come back the next day and the item in question will be resting on the floor due to creep in the rope. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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so which is the one that doesnt creep? and is it not easier just to use wire?
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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They all creep including wire you just need to know how much, and this figure isnt always available.
Wetting rope then loading it up and leaving it to dry is often a good way of getting the creep out. |
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Peter Rhodes ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171 |
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I'm intreeged into what he wants a 3000 metre piece of high tech rope for!
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asterix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 621 |
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I imagine he's setting up a river ferry crossing using a winch
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bert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 05 Location: norwich usually Online Status: Offline Posts: 584 |
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I`m having trouble now,why would you imagine that? I for instance imagined a well attended group bondage party! Edited by bert |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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Fundamental misunderstanding of Stretch and Creep I fear. These are both fundamental properties at a molecular level independent of rope construction. I digress...
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