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    Posted: 29 Oct 08 at 11:21am
Here's a photo of the new Loday/White F18 that won the Grafham Open (looking at the results, it must be fast ;-) ...)



It may become the next "must have F18"...

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That rig looks huge!

Nice piece of kit



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I'd like to see how much it costs, though...

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From voilesnews.fr, they say 18.345 Euros complete freigh and taxes included so in the UK, it might be less ...


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It certainly looked fast at Grafham - although it was in very capable hands.

They were sailing a prototype, and making some (minor) repairs as they sailed - distracting them from making best speed. They'd also broken both dagger boards the day beforehand, and used the heavy plugs for the moulds to compete, so I'd think there's plenty of potential left in it.

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The daggerboards coming out of Loday/White have always suprised me with their fragility. My wife and her father destroyed several daggerboards in their Spitfire and were often told to raise them a couple of inches to reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, but surely a foil that small should be strong enough to be left fully down all the time?
I was also suprised to see that in the construction of the foils they seem to use a couple of layers of glass over foam with no stiffeners.
The weight saving from this cant be much when you compare the foils to most dinghy foils which are significantly stiffer and designed to stay down all the time.

The stern looks interesting with plenty of volume and hints towards a semi-planing design either that or my eyes are screwed!
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'course monohull dinghy foils have to withstand crew and helm jumping up and down on them during capsize recovery!
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Originally posted by craiggo

The daggerboards coming out of Loday/White have always suprised me with their fragility. My wife and her father destroyed several daggerboards in their Spitfire and were often told to raise them a couple of inches to reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, but surely a foil that small should be strong enough to be left fully down all the time?
I was also suprised to see that in the construction of the foils they seem to use a couple of layers of glass over foam with no stiffeners.
The weight saving from this cant be much when you compare the foils to most dinghy foils which are significantly stiffer and designed to stay down all the time.

The stern looks interesting with plenty of volume and hints towards a semi-planing design either that or my eyes are screwed!



I sailed on the Spitfire since the first prototypes and the only time I broke a daggerboard was went it hit a rock ... actually I feel lucky that it broke instead of the hull ...

I did countless long distance races with heavy crews, daggerboards down, 2 traps and the spinaker on, I'm still waiting for a daggerboard to fail ...
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I dare say that some are stronger than others, but it does seem strange that these problems arise with the boards. I think most sailors in the UK would rather have a set of foils that last the life of the boat but weigh a kg more than having to fork out £250 every 6 months for another lightweight set.

For info my father in law bought his boat shortly following the launch at Sailboat back in the day and raced the boat hard for many years so this isnt some recent issue on a secondhand boats.

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The only time I have broken a dagger board was when I tried to sail over a very large buoy... Frankly, if it hadn't broken, I don't know if I'd ever have gotten off the thing. Otherwise, I sailed the Spitfire with both boards fully down, upwind and downwind, in all sorts of weather and waves, no problem.
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