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Topper Omega vs Laser Bahia , buy which? |
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NorskScot ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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I am looking to buy my first family dinghy to ship to Norway and my choices are the Topper Omega or the Laser Bahia. I am looking for a safe, maintenance-free, family boat that will take 2 adults and 3 kids and will take an outboard for fishing trips. Plan is to go for evening sails and short day trips among the islands. Also for some 2-up sailing fun with a mate. Any thoughts out there - the boats are of a very similar spec.
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robinft ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 18 Jun 04 Location: Thorpe Bay YC Online Status: Offline Posts: 252 |
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Neither, you're asking the wrong forum! Seriously though, check out the exploits of Frank Dye and buy a Wayfarer.
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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Neither! ! ever ...
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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The Bahia strikes me as extremely heavy for what it is - may be a
consideration. Wayfarer is still a good cruising boat. |
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dopamine ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 26 Oct 06 Location: Burkina Faso Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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What helpful replies! The Bahia is a far better conceived package than the Omega imho, sounds like it would sort your purposes very well. As an accomplished capsiser and turtler I think rotomoulded boats do stand up to rough treatment better than other types of plastic.
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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I have sailed all boats mentioned. The Wayfarer is a much better boat for your money. It is a stable boat that can easily cruise with 5 people on board, 3 kids up front and the other adult opposite the sailor or balancing the boat out. The Laser Omega is ok, but more plasticcy looking than the Laser. It has the added benifit of a standard assy kite which the Laser has too. Was an OK sail when we took it out. As for the Laser Bahia, this is a tippy boat, which I think the Omega is as well. It is OK, they all I think can have the outboard bracket, they are all easy to rig but all heavy so will require the assistance of two people. If I had say £6k to spend and I wanted a family cruising boat, I would go for a Wayfarer, much better built boats, less hassle and robust even though they are made of fibreglass. They would also be easier to sell on too if you needed to as they retain their value well whichI recon the others won't.
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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Further to all this, having just been through the stress of shipping a boat abroad, I would look into the possibility of buying a wayfarer once you get to Norway.
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the same, but different...
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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I grew up in Norway. My parents bought a mirror dinghy for sailing and motoring around the fijords and visiting islands which worked really well and was lots of fun. The "N3" sail number always raised a few eyebrows when it was imported back into the UK and we sailed it! Obviously you are something larger though. One thing to bear in mind is that on the fijords you really are on your own with no safety cover whatsoever. Be careful, we once had the split pin go from the prop which was a bit scary. That said, I remember motoring out with my dad at night when it was perfectly calm - you could see all the way to the bottom on it was very very deep, like being suspended in space. As far as I know there are not many of teh modern boats can take an outboard (L2000 etc) so make sure you check. I'm not sure about the two you are considering. |
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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I'd back the recommendations for a Wayfarer. Roomy and stable, but three sails up and they'll go like a train down wind. They're also good for crusing- opening up the possibility of short camping trips. As long as you don't sail them full tilt into rocks and make sure they're fully drained when the temprature is below freezing, they're also pretty bombproof.
I was, I have to say, pretty suprised that Y&Y missed the Wayfarer from the roundup of family daysailors in this months mag. They're the boat that the Bahia, Omega, Stratos and others (such as dead classes like the Topper Sport 16 and Laser 16) want to be. |
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laserboy404 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
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My Uncle has bought an RS Vision and has been very pleased with it, plenty of room, stable and an outboard bracket is available. Plus it is rotomoulded so is quite indestructable
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