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    Posted: 13 Apr 08 at 11:04pm

not a common occurrence this, but did happen at our club today, and has ignited some debate.

Coming up to the finish line, in a 2 handed boat, threw in one last tack to cross the line, missed the toe straps and exited the boat head first. This left the crew to stop the boat capsizing, in the course of which the boat crossed the finish line.

the unfortunate exit from the boat happened within 10 feet of the line.

Helm never let go of the main, and proceeded to haul one very wet body back into the boat, by which time the boat had cleared the line.

there was no infringement with any other boatand did not collide with the finishing marks.  the question is has the boat legally finished, or does it have to go back and re-cross the finish line.

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needs to go back in my view

I recall something about finishing with the same amount you started with - otherwise you could have 10 people onboard in order to go upwind and ditch most of them tocome back down!!

I seem to recall an Americas Cup story to the same effect

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As the helm was still "connected" as he was hanging onto the mainsheet when the boat finished, it could be argued that all is OK.

 

Might depend if the boat speeded up when he "fell" out and so there maybe "illegal propulsion" going on. 

 

 

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47.2 No person on board shall intentionally leave, except when ill or injured, or to help a person or vessel in danger, or to swim. A person leaving the boat by accident or to swim shall be back on board before the boat continues in the race.

I don't think hanging onto the mainsheet counts as "back on board".

 

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By strict reading of the rules, they proabably should have circled back to course side of the line and recrossed. However, I reckon the club should honour this incident in some way come prizegiving, as it sounds frickin funny
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I once pitchpoled round the last mark and finished the race with me and crew both onboard a capsized boat. Not only was I "finished" but the race officer and team came out of the hut with big course boards, marking me for "style".

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Charlie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 08 at 9:35am
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

47.2 No person on board shall intentionally leave, except when ill or injured, or to help a person or vessel in danger, or to swim. A person leaving the boat by accident or to swim shall be back on board before the boat continues in the race.

Wait so it's actually written in the rules that you can leave the boat for a swim, so if it's an absolute drifter of a race on a hot day the crew could jump overboard as soon as you start then swim around the finish line to be picked up just before the boat finishes, anybody want to try that?

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Read that rule again, Charlie.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Charlie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 08 at 2:37pm

Originally posted by alstorer

Read that rule again, Charlie.

Oops missed the continues bit

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I guessed that's what you'd done
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