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    Posted: 01 Nov 07 at 12:08pm
Looking for some advice for 2 new cat sailors looking for the right boat and somewhere to race it in the North. 

We are both in the region of 14.5 - 15 stone and will be sailing 1 or 2 up until we get a fim idea on what suits us best. For that reason we have strongly considered the Dart 18.

A competetive sailing scene is very important but am struggling to find anywhere (search limited to Googling thus far) in the North on either coast that seems to have a reasonable sized fleet of Darts.

I'd appreciate anyones comments or idea's on our choice of boat (given our weight) and whether anyone is aware of any sailing clubs in the North which has competetive fleet/s of cats.

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How far north?  South Shields?
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Sorry forgot to mention - we are based in Harrogate so ideally North Yorks, Lancashire or Humberside. But am interested in getting a good understanding of the cat racing scene in the whole of the North.

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With both being at your weight you may find the Dart a little underpowered when sailing two up. You may find an Inter 20, F18 or a Tornado a better choice but I cannot comment on the sailing 1 up of these, certainly not an option for the Tornado though.

For competitive racing what do you mean club, open or national level? Certainly at Open level the F18 offers good competitive racing whilst the F18 and Tornado offer good racing at National level. All 3 are good for long distance events.

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How far are you willing to travel?

Have you tried contacting SNECCA?

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SNECCA in process of building new website and sorting programme for next year including the long distance 4" race on the Forth Next year , not forgetting the Flag ship Bi annual event "THE LOCHNESS MONSTER CAT RACE " next edition due 2009 , but don't time fly .

ask any SNECCA questions in between and I'm sure you will get speedy responses .

 

Furthest down south SNECCA events to date have been at South Shields who have a good cat fleet , competitive too

 

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Hi Daniel,

Living in Harrogate (less than ten miles form where I live), you must be in the worst place in the country for 'Cat Sailing'.  There are no inland clubs within about 90 miles which have big enough waters to sail fast cats. Kielder is probably the nearest, it would probably be better to go to Rutland, Grafham, Bala, etc., to get inland cat sailing with competitive fleets, these clubs are only another 20 miles or so further.

Coastwise, there is a cat fleet, I think mainly Dart 18's, at Royal Yorkshire, Bridlington.  Dee would be another option but it is over 100 miles away. Other Clubs such as Runswick Bay, Filey, etc., have a few cats but there are no large competitive fleets.  It all depends what you want.

My own club (your nearest club with a decent stretch of water - 371 acres) has a few cats - Darts, Hurricanes, etc., but they are mainly used for pleasure sailing and rarely go out, they are rarely raced.  Our water is not big enough for fast cats and my experience is that they do not mix very well with monohulls in handicap racing, which, apart from open meetings, is the backbone of the weekly racing at my club . 

Y.D.S.C. has a very active and competitive Vortex fleet which could be an introduction to small cats if you have not sailed them before (albeit you are a couple of stones or so on the heavy side).  Come to the club and have a look, our Frostbite Series starts on Sunday at 11.30 am and 1.30pm.

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If you want to sail 1-up and 2-up the Dart 18 is best for you, initially even if you are a bit on the heavy side when 2-up, it is a good learning ground. The others classes suggested are not really an option 1-up. The Dart 18 remains the most active Cat Fleet in the Country by some way. They have a very active TT circuit and do a training weekend in April which usually has about 20 new punters taking part. There are lots of boats available from £500 up as it is a well established class. Have a look at www.dart18.com. As Ian says the clubs are a little distance from you. The RYYC at Bridlington has a decent size fleet of Dart 18s but if you want inland through the year sailing your best bet is probably Carsington Water just South of Matlock.

Another option you could consider is to buy 2 single handed boats and have one each. In that case it would be worth considering the Sprint 15 (which was previously the Dart 15). This is the second biggest and most active fleet in the country. We have a summer and winter circuit and do 2 weekend training sessions each year (one in the North and another in the South). Next year we hope to do the Northern one at Filey but have yet to fix the date. The fleet is very friendly and it opens up more options of Northern Clubs. There are about 8 boats at Halifax near you and they race regularly and travel so that would be your obvious choice. Carsington is further but has about 25 boats and they are very active - including on the training front. We have our Winter Traveller at Carsington on 8 December.  Beaver near Doncaster is a small lake with about 10 boats but they have been going through a quiet spell. Filey has 8 boats but they do not race often. Any way give www.sprint15.com a look and the clubs page is quite helpful.

There is also a very active forum on both web sites if you want to follow up either option.

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Bob (Sprint 15 Events Secretary)

 

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I agree with the above - Bridlington may be the best place to try with the Dart 18.  They have a growing enthusiasm and are cropping up as a regular on the D18 class traveller circuit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 07 at 2:34pm
Sorry its taken so long to respond to your comments. Really appreciate the response its given me a very good understanding of whats out there in the region at large and plenty of links to follow.

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