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WildWood ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 136 |
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So to summarise, FF are keel boats, and not yachts or dinghys, but race against yachts and dinghys on handicap sometimes.... so basically they do whatever suits them (or the event organisers) best |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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JOG is one of the major organisers of offshore and coastal yacht racing from the south coast and has informally defined its mission as running "racing for boats with beds". However I don't think oil tankers are invited. |
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The Moo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 809 |
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An Oil Tanker has beds but I wouldn't call it a yacht. According to Collins Paperback dictionary a yacht is " a large boat with sails or an engine, used for racing or pleasure cruising. A dinghy "is a small boat, powered by sails, oars or outboard motor". It doesn't provide a definition for keelboat.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Keelboat and yacht are different things. A keelboat is a boat with a keel. A yacht is a boat with beds. There are multihull yachts without keels and a large number of racing keelboat classes that are not yachts, FF being a case in point. FFs do indeed have a class in Cowes Week, which is a keelboat regatta. If Y&Y are classing the K6 and Elite as "yachts", that's just wrong. There are boats where the line between keelboat and yacht is a bit blurred, and there is the whole "what's a sportsboat" question, but in no way on earth is the K6 a "yacht". Edited by Stefan Lloyd |
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ratface ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 686 |
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IMHO anything with a lump of lead attached to the bottom of the boat or plate is a yacht/keelboat
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iansmithofotley ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Otley, West Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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Hi everyone, The Flying Fifteen has always been listed as a Keelboat in the RYA (PY) scheme. This is obviously because it can not be listed under the scheme's other categories of Centreboard, Cruisers or Multihull. Funnily enough, the Y & Y classes section does not have a Keelboat section and there are some differences as to how boats have been classified e.g. the Flying Fifteen, SB 3 and the Squib are in the Dinghies section but the RS Elite and RS K6 are in the Yachts section. It is obviously all done on purpose just to confuse us all. In my experience, Flying Fifteens have always been allowed in large handicap dinghy events such as the Bloody Mary but I think that I am right in saying that they also appear as a 'fleet' at Cowes Week and other similar 'yachting' events. Ian (Yokshire Dales S.C.) |
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PeterV ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 131 |
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I thought the whole idea of a FF was that you could call it whatever you wanted, sail it with the dinghies or the cruisers. This is what they did when I sailed at Helensburgh.
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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We used to race the FF with the cruisers at our club and they Cleaned up, they are not dinghies, because they have a fized lead lump under
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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You mean apart from calling it "perhaps the ugliest boat ever designed"? Presumably it doesn't use a centreboard and keel at the same time. Therefore I'd call it whatever was appropriate to the configuration it was sailing in.
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BBSCFaithfull ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251 |
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One has a keel and one doesnt. Quite clear cut hannah
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