RS200 Main Halyard

   I have just purchased a second hand RS200.  First sail last weekend which was great fun.  One question though... (well perhaps the first question).  The mainsail halyard pulls down onto a simple cleat - but this keeps slipping, particularly when you pull down on the kicker.  I tied the halyard off around the mast this weekend so we could sail, but it wasn't an ideal solution as it still slipped and let the sail down a bit.  Any tips how to resolve this issue?  

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Charliecat5 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charliecat5 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: RS200 Main Halyard Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 1:38pm
	I have just purchased a second hand RS200. First sail last weekend which was great fun. One question though... (well perhaps the first question). The mainsail halyard pulls down onto a simple cleat - but this keeps slipping, particularly when you pull down on the kicker. I tied the halyard off around the mast this weekend so we could sail, but it wasn't an ideal solution as it still slipped and let the sail down a bit. Any tips how to resolve this issue?

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 1:49pm
	Worn cleat perhaps? Its a clam cleat isn't it? Look closely to see if the teeth are worn away in a groove. If so replace. Edited by JimC - 20 Nov 18 at 1:55pm

Gordon 1430 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Jun 17 Location: Lee on Solent Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gordon 1430 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 1:54pm
	move the knot in the halyard if you have any spare, rope where it locks in the cleat may be worn.
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Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:00pm
	Is it slipping in the cleat, or is the halyard stretching? Hoist the sail and cleat, mark rope with some tape at the cleat, then pull on downhaul and kicker as hard as possible. It should then be obvious if the cleat is slipping or the halyard is stretching. If it's the cleat that's slipping, you can try moving the knot at the top, but really putting on a new cleat with sharp teeth is the answer. Then make sure when you hoist you don't hoist through the cleat and wear it down (lift the halyard out the cleat to the side during hoist). If the cleats holding, then it's your halyard slipping. Get a high spec 5mm dynema which has been heat treated (rooster / marlow sell some of the stuff). It's the lowest stretch I've ever seen and holds in cleats very well (for dynema!). It's expensive, but get an excess of about 1 m and shuffle it along periodically and it will last a long time. Lastly, always stretch out the halyard after hoisting each sail by pulling on kicker and downhaul, releasing, and then snugging up the halyard again. Edited by mozzy - 20 Nov 18 at 2:03pm

Charliecat5 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charliecat5 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:09pm
	It's the cleat that is slipping. The easiest thing will probably be to replace the cleat... but I am not a fan of them in general so wondered if there were any other ways to retro fit something that would hold the line better? Thanks.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:19pm
	Just swap out for a new cleat. With the right diameter halyard they will have no slippage. I never seen anyone use a different type of cleat there, and I'm sure it would be in class rules anyway.

Charliecat5 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charliecat5 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:20pm
	Thanks Mozzy. I'll get one ordered.

Charliecat5 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charliecat5 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:21pm
	Whilst we're on the subject... does anyone have a link to a rigging diagram for the RS200? It would be helpful to know that I am running the lines in the right directions.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 2:28pm
	There's some pictures on the rs website, but they may be the new deck now. Or ask here, or the class Facebook group. Or try this video for simple stuff...

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Nov 18 at 5:10pm
	The Spinlock PRX CamCleat is very good, doesn't wear the halyard and doesn't slip. The RS200 class rules say this :- "1.2 The following parts or equipment may be replaced providing that the replacement performs a similar function. The replacement parts or equipment may be obtained from any supplier: - 1.2.5 Main Halyard and halyard securing device, maximum velocity ratio 1:1" So it sounds like it would be legal.
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