Best pump action Spinnaker halyard Cleat???

   Hi all

So what is the best pump action Spinnaker halyard Cleat???

And what are your views on the best system for hoist and drop???

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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Best pump action Spinnaker halyard Cleat??? Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 9:49am
	Hi all So what is the best pump action Spinnaker halyard Cleat??? And what are your views on the best system for hoist and drop???

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 10:58am
	Take a look at any Fireball, they have a pretty much standardised setup these days with elastic take ups. You only need a drop if you have a chute.
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	IS this for a single hander or crewed boat? I came to like the Spinlock cleat for the hoist of the Alto, they fitted an RS700 style system to my V2 which worked really well, but it's a system involving rocker one way cleats and fairly complex system tuned by bungee which needs to be kept in good condition. Simplest Hoist drop was the MPS, uncomplicated and once you got the knack of holding the tiller down on one knee was easy to operate. Worse system the RS100 which had gubbins up under the deck you can't get at and designed to fail only during a major event.
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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 11:56am
	Cheers guys What would be really useful is any Fireball, 505, RS700 sailors opinions on which flip/flop pump cleat is the better option? There are a few options on the market, Allen, Northfix...??? Haven't seen the Spinlock one mentioned above, I'll do a search

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 12:15pm
	'Noah' who hangs around here has a pretty well set up Fireball, might be worth dropping him a private message in case he doesn;t see this.
	Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74

craiggo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote craiggo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 12:40pm
	I owned a 700 for 11 years and can confirm that the Northfix cleats are fine. Back in the early days (pre 2003) there were issues with the bases flexing so Northfix beefed then up. As far as I'm aware they are all at the new standard. The cleats generally work fine regardless of rope type, but it's normally recommended if you go for a d12 halyard to bulk it out where it sits in the cam cleat. I had a full set of spares for my 700 but never used them, so 11 years of fairly hard use and the cleats were still in good condition.
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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 12:43pm
	Great cheers...

Noah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Post Options Post Reply Quote Noah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 5:09pm
	Gee, thanks Jeffers. I don't think I've seen anything other than the Northfix on any Fireball, and it works just fine. Only issue I've ever had was the split ring working its way out, leading to loss of the pivot pin. (I hate tape!). Fixed by replacing the ring and squeezing it so it cannot rotate.
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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 7:40pm
	Thanks Noah Much appreciated

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	I used to sail a Scorpion with bags. We had a Northfix with flip flops and a Harken Cam-Matic worked really well. Kite was up in a fraction of a second. You have to keep the friction in the system to a minimal as you have a 1:2 at the pump handle.