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rich96 
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 Topic: Flying Fifteen WorldsPosted: 03 Mar 17 at 12:18pm |
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Sounds like an eventful last race
Dow e know exactly what happened between the top two ? |
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jeffers
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 1:09pm |
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Luffing incident on the first run it seems.
However it was not decided in the protest room as even with a 4th in the final race they would still be 2 points behind the winners.
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Paul
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rich96
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 1:36pm |
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Yes - I read that report too. More interested in exactly what happened (if anyone knows ?)
Also I think the scoring would have given the Jerwoods the title very comfortably without the DSQ - so it was totally critical |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 2:00pm |
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I don't know what happened but does anybody think the current rules make deciding who was at fault much more complicated? Old (pre '96?) rule, hail "windward boat keep clear" until responding hail "mast abeam" the leeward boat is clearly in the right, after the second hail the windward boat is probably in the right if contact occurs (okay, I've sat on the odd protest committee back in the day and I know it's never quite that simple). Now it's anybodies guess whether the ROW leeward boat has luffed too quickly and failed to give the windward boat 'room to keep clear' ore some such.....
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sargesail
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 4:13pm |
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No. Absolutely not.
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jeffers
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 4:57pm |
Not sure why the DSQ was counted, must have been less than 20...so yes they would have taken the title sorry (Friday afternioon) Edited by jeffers - 03 Mar 17 at 4:59pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 5:23pm |
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The DSQ must have been the discard even though it wasn't bracketed in the results (the 20th was instead) but the total came to 38 (exactly the sum of races 1-6) while the DSQ was shown as 58, correct as there were 57 entries (DSQ=last+1).
As you say, if the 4th in the last race had counted they would have been on 22 points for a comfortable victory. Unless, of course the incident hadn't happened in the first place and then who knows, Goacher and Harper did turns as a consequence of the incident so finished well down the fleet in that race but to beat the Jerwoods' 22 points they would have had to finish 8th or better (which looks quite likely if they hadn't done turns).
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NickM
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 6:47pm |
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Pure guess: the Jerwoods luffed Goacher who collided with them and duly did turns but protested the Jerwoods under 14A?
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JimC
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 7:48pm |
According to the report there was a hole in one boat so it seems likely that 44.1b would apply and doing turns wouldn't have been enough: any boat that was found to have broken a rule would be looking at a DSQ even if they had done a 720. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 03 Mar 17 at 9:09pm |
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The hole was in the Jerwoods' boat so, if that's the case surely they must have been protested under rule 14? Either way the PC decided that Goacher's actions did not warrant a DSQ.
Just re-read that last post, so what you're saying JimC is that Goacher was wasting his time doing turns?....... Maybe he wasn't aware that there was damage? Edited by Sam.Spoons - 03 Mar 17 at 9:12pm |
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