Informing of intent to protest

scenario
contact is made between boat A on starboard and boat B on port,

both boats are still sailing next to each other but A doesn't inform boat B of their intent to protest them

is after the race now too late to inform Boat B of said protest

Also to what extent do you have to inform them of the protest. For example can you get away with "you need to do your turns" 

61 PROTEST REQUIREMENTS
61.1 Informing the Protestee
(a) A boat intending to protest shall inform the other boat at the
first reasonable opportunity. When her protest will concern an
incident in the racing area that she was involved in or saw, she
shall hail ‘Protest’ and conspicuously display a red flag at the
first reasonable opportunity for each. She shall display the flag
until she is no longer racing. However,
(1) if the other boat is beyond hailing distance, the protesting
boat need not hail but she shall inform the other boat at
the first reasonable opportunity;
(2) if the hull length of the protesting boat is less than 6
metres, she need not display a red flag;
(3) if the incident was an error by the other boat in sailing
the course, she need not hail or display a red flag but she 

Edited by ClubRacer - 25 Jan 17 at 11:34pm

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ClubRacer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Sep 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 210	Post Options Post Reply Quote ClubRacer Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Informing of intent to protest Posted: 25 Jan 17 at 11:32pm
	scenario contact is made between boat A on starboard and boat B on port, both boats are still sailing next to each other but A doesn't inform boat B of their intent to protest them is after the race now too late to inform Boat B of said protest Also to what extent do you have to inform them of the protest. For example can you get away with "you need to do your turns" 61 PROTEST REQUIREMENTS 61.1 Informing the Protestee (a) A boat intending to protest shall inform the other boat at the first reasonable opportunity. When her protest will concern an incident in the racing area that she was involved in or saw, she shall hail ‘Protest’ and conspicuously display a red flag at the first reasonable opportunity for each. She shall display the flag until she is no longer racing. However, (1) if the other boat is beyond hailing distance, the protesting boat need not hail but she shall inform the other boat at the first reasonable opportunity; (2) if the hull length of the protesting boat is less than 6 metres, she need not display a red flag; (3) if the incident was an error by the other boat in sailing the course, she need not hail or display a red flag but she Edited by ClubRacer - 25 Jan 17 at 11:34pm

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jan 17 at 12:16am
	The cases and examples suggest that "protest" needs to be the word used, used first, and "do your turns" doesn't hack it. Worse still saying anything before you say protest means that it doesn't count as first reasonable opportunity and the protest will probably get thrown out. To my mind this is a dreadful state of affairs. IMHO its the one glaring fault in the rules. A failure of process by the innocent party should not be a complete get out of gaol free for the guilty.

Neptune Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314	Post Options Post Reply Quote Neptune Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jan 17 at 8:21am
	Went to rules chat a few weeks ago with regional rules guy Chris Simon, who suggested your protest wouldn't be thrown out if protest wasn't your first word, but at least needed to be early on In the inevitable on water "discussion". He suggested making it your first word was unreasonable in heat of the moment.
	Musto Skiff and Solo sailor