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    Posted: 14 Nov 15 at 11:38pm
does anyone have a picture or image of the kicking strap on a 420.  it is missing on my "new to me " boat and I need to put one together.

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How does it attach at each end? And what is there in the way of cleats and things? Those are the bits that really control what you do. The actual ropes and pulleys between mast and boom are the easy bit! There are loads of ways of doing that and they are pretty much all OK.
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The boom has a mast shackle loop in the photo, it is the lower one I think.

On the boom is a metal loop.



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Almost certainly both fittings in fact. That looks like a setup for what is called a cascade system. The bottom one doesn't look man enough on its own. The other thing that needs to be clarified is what happens afterwards. Have you any unused cleats in the middle of the boat?
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I see.  i will have a look at the rest of the set up.  My problem is that the kicker is totally missing. The guy i bought it from has not responded to me so I am not really sure where to start.  Anyone got a pic of a "cascade system"?
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Have a look here
https://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?mc=HARDWARE&sc=Kicker%20Systems&ssc=420
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Thank you.  They are the people that sold the boat after it was made.
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Originally posted by JimC

Almost certainly both fittings in fact. That looks like a setup for what is called a cascade system. The bottom one doesn't look man enough on its own. The other thing that needs to be clarified is what happens afterwards. Have you any unused cleats in the middle of the boat?

There is an unsued locking cleat on the centre board housing.  i can only assume that the cascade system comes back to there and locks off there.  looking at the cascade system this would make sense.  I have emailed P&B to ask for their advice but it looks like it is about £80.00.   JOY!
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It would be more common for a kicking strap system to end up on each side of the boat, but a centre one is possible. Do you have any spare blocks or anything, or is it all missing?
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I have a bag of stuff.  I have 3 single pulley blocks.  They are holt ones.  I also have loads of 4 & 5mm shackles.  It seems that the guy has forgotten to put it in the boat when my brother picked the boat up for me.  
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