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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Then you come up against the PY can of worms....... Drop the hull weight and you will immediately obsolete all the other hulls out there. From memory the Blaze bare hull has never been particularly weighty (IMO)
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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My point is that a 2.40 fixed carbon wing can't weigh that much more than a 1.90 - both have to be robust enough to take knocks, so the extra leverage loads shouldn't require that much extra beef, I'd have thought. Is it not possible to make the wings quickly detachable for transport/boat. Not much less quick than pulling the existing Blaze wings in and out each week should be possible. Pins, velcro straps...
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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only if: a) the club aren't using PY properly and locally adjusting where appropriate b) you don't accept that other classes through years have reduced their minimum weight and PY corrects this over time
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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MM- in reality wouldn't they seize in place? I went through 2 cans of mclube and a lot of rubber hammer strokes to get my old 600 wings to dislodge.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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No forestay attachment...this an oversight or is this
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Did you ever try sailing the boat with no wings at all?
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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I like the idea of being able to swap the 3 rigs with one mast and one hull Mike. it gives the new class a steady supply of used boats to buld from, so a relatively low entry point in terms of price.
But one question, is the new reduced hull a prototype for weight reduction changes to the blaze class as a whole? Or just a project to see how light you can make one?
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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In the light stuff I used to sail my Blaze with the wings right in as this made roll tacking possible. You quickly need the wings as the wind builds though.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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You think my suggested velcro straps would seize?! And the Blaze currently uses pins for rack adjustment; used every week as they are for boat-park-friendliness there's no problem with freezing. To be clear, I'm not suggesting telescopic carbon wings, just one-piece ones that are the same width as most Blaze owners choose to use (2.40m-odd) which would so far as I can see weigh only a kilo or so more than the 1.90 carbon one-piece wings. Lightweights need beam most of all!
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The weight reduction in the Supernova class appears to have actually increased sales, so it can work, but will cause pain for a while. On the other hand, I can see it killing a class stone dead if done wrong.
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