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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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It's important to remember that running a sea nationals is hugely more complex and expensive than running an event on a safer, non tidal inland lake or reservoir. Some people will be deterred from attending a sea event, and the organisers will want to attract as many sailors as possible, so it's now onder some classes opt for an inland nationals - cheaper and more attractive.
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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on the other hand there is definite sea-snobbery that would for many classes result in lowered turnout if you held a Nationals inland.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I agree that some classes like the sea (Fireflies, for instance) and some inland. Depends not only on the boat, but on the people who race them.
No point in thinking one is better than the other, though a sea Nationals at a holiday location is generally better for hangers on. |
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NickM ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 328 |
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Surely it is also a function of the space required. A class with a large Nationals turnout is going to need/want a very large puddle if looking to sail inland, and there is a lot of pressure on the relatively few Clubs that can provide it. I suspect there are more sea clubs that can manage 70+ boats. I also feel that for a "National" level competition, you should have the challenge of 1km+ length legs.
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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rightly so in my personal opinion... holding a UK nationals inland just doesn't seem to do the sport justice. Any class worth its salt would hold an inland champs specifically to test those skills separately.
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robin34024 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jan 12 Location: Lincoln Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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Its not just the fact that it isn't run on the sea that annoys me. I can appreciate all strands of sailing from rivers, to little ponds, to the great lakes, to big sea sailing. In fact if anything, i enjoy sailing on little rivers with a competitive fleet more than anything. But there is rather little variety in the streaker calender, and having a nationals on the sea would bring at least a little variety, and maybe even attract a few more sailors. It would also justify having an inlands as well, since in my view, an inland championships in conjunction with a nationals held on an inland water is kinda pointless.
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Dougal ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
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If the Nationals are to be held Inland there is nothing to stop the class having a 'coastal' champs on the calendar as well.
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What could possibly go wrong?
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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Sounds a little arse about face that Dougal- but I guess it's the politically correct solution ;-)
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Dougal ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
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I'm sure I've seen it done in a class where every 4 or 5 years tha Nationals would be inland. Can't for the life of me remember which class (or even if I am making the whole thing up!). Age, memory etc etc...
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'd not mind taking the Lightning to a seaside holiday venue, but I think we would lose more people than we would gain, and Northampton really do make it very easy to hold a Nats there.
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