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    Posted: 17 Dec 15 at 2:35pm
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 There, in a nutshell is dinghy sailings biggest problem. Contender would be about the 10th choice of boat for me but we should all do our bit to support fleets.

So your suggestion is that the RYA/ISAF/Whoever provides an official list of four boats (single hander and double hander, hiking, trapeze) and that is what everyone sails? Makes for good, big fleets. But I for one will always prefer sailing the boat I enjoy most. It's a hobby, not a job. ;)

And that is why it will not work. I, for one, like the diversity we have in the UK. there are choices if you want to fleet race and choices if you want to sail a boat you like sailing. To have a class dictated to me by the RYA or other would turn me away from sailing in an instant.

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Originally posted by jeffers

And that is why it will not work. I, for one, like the diversity we have in the UK. there are choices if you want to fleet race and choices if you want to sail a boat you like sailing. To have a class dictated to me by the RYA or other would turn me away from sailing in an instant.

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I just love the dinghy diversity here in the UK.
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This argument is the same old, same old thing going round and round and it will for evermore because for as many people who see sailing (and racing) as a sport at least as many if not more see it as a pastime with a competitive edge.
Most people signing up to a sport pretty much willing accept tight rules and equipment regulations.
A pastime / engrossing hobby is a completely different thing.
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Originally posted by Do Different

This argument is the same old, same old thing going round and round and it will for evermore because for as many people who see sailing (and racing) as a sport at least as many if not more see it as a pastime with a competitive edge.
Most people signing up to a sport pretty much willing accept tight rules and equipment regulations.
A pastime / engrossing hobby is a completely different thing.

If I started doing a sport where there were equipment rules and regs (such as Hockey) then I would willingly accept that from the word go. To have a change forced upon me for a sport I already do would likely drive me away depending on the equipment of course!
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If you were forced to all buy the same racket,bat,ball,club,spear (javlin)pole, tong (what they use for curling ;-) ), kite, board, powerboat, ski, snowboard, car, truck, lawnmower in fact pretty much no other sport has a bunch of old buffer gits telling you what you can or cannot use to do their chuffing sport..

Just so the money the chiselling mean b**tards spend on their own kit doesn't depreciate.

Can you imagine turning up at the Golf/Tennis club to be told oh no you can't use that, we use wooden rackets, or clubs here... FFS you couldn't write it never mind make it up.



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Actually pretty much every sport has a bunch of people telling you what equipment you can or cannot use. Try turning up with non approved tennis racket, cricket bat, golf ball, golf club, javelin etc etc and see what happens... even in lawnmower racing there's a host of regulations about what you can and cannot use...
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There are no tennis rackets that are not of an 'approved' design, there are just not that many clubs, real tennis aside, demanding you use some old wooden racket designed in 1960. Ditto Golf

Nor are there other than type, engine size etc any limitations that tell you, you must buy this particular brand of lawnmower, at least there wasn't during the brief period i was involved in the pastime.

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And just look at Cycling, still riding diamond frames which originated in the 1880s and real development stopped by the old cycling bufffers.

Imagine if sailing was cycling, we would still with Gaff rig, bronze plates and Yachting caps! 


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Just goes to show what a firm hand the old buffer gits have if you can't even buy unapproved tennis rackets... First ran across this in the 70s when I discovered my home made table tennis bat didn't measure against the regulations...
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Been reading John McEnroe's autobiography. His opinion is that the game of tennis would be much better off at pro level with wooden rackets, as the modern ones give too much emphasis to power. Same with baseball. Aparrantly, you at to the major league, you can only use a wooden bat, because it is harder to use. Javelins were made less aerodynamic so they flew less far. We seem to have this conversation a lot. As far as I can see, sailing isn't like the javelin, it is like all field sports, where there is something for everyone. What is odd is that we handicap javelin, discus, hammer and shot, in effect.
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