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    Posted: 08 Feb 11 at 11:02am
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Here's some important info about buying Olympic tickets.
 
It's very much a "just when you thought things couldn't get worse" article. Especially worth paying attention to if you plan to go to events up in london with your family.
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Originally posted by Teamvmg

One minute we are moaning to ISAF that sailing is good for the Olympics because it is a spectator sport and then as soon as someone tries to expand on this we are moaning again! Make your minds up!
 
I think the issue here is that sailing has never been a pay to view sport at an Olympic Games, it has always been free from what I can find....
 
From "official" site....

During the Games

Sailing has historically been a non-ticketed event. We are currently reviewing our ticketing strategy with a view to bringing a spectator experience to suit various levels. This may include free 'Live Sites'; quiet cliff observation points; ticketed venues with TV, tracking and commentary; and ticketed and specific spectator boats.

The 2012 Games will be the first to charge spectators to view sailing events with Locog intending to introduce 4,600 temporary seats in Nothe Gardens, a Weymouth park at overlooks one of the racing areas at Newton's Cove.

Weymouth and Portland Council claim they only received official notification of Locog's intentions in December, more than two months after ticket prices for the Games were announced.

One councillor John Birtwistle hit out at the "deal stitched up by council officers with LOCOG", adding that many residents were "vehemently opposed" to the Nothe being a ticketed venue.

Councillor Howard Legg added: "Before we were even asked about the availability of the Nothe we were asked if wanted tickets!"

Weymouth and Portland Council chief executive David Clarke cited how it was the first time in Olympic history that sailing was considering a ticketed venue

 
Now I doubt anybody would object to paying for an on the water spectator boat, and I understand these will be available, it's the idea of paying to access on shore areas we can walk around anytime that irritates people.
On screen coverage is likely to be aimed at the "interested" non sailor who either doesn't want to go to London, or who failed to get tickets for other events and just wants to see something live of the games.
 
Anyway time will tell if they can sell the tickets, and I'm sure most of us will either pay for "on the water" or find free vantage points.
 
 
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Originally posted by ellistine

I think the new rules they implemented at the last Sail For Gold where all sails carried the National Flag will help. Also at the last Olympic games they had National Flag Spinnakers which would also help.

If the GBR team display their national flag they are committing a criminal offence under the 1995 Merchant Shipping Act.


Unless they have white sails, when they may get away with it as a Jack.

This guy is a criminal on two counts



1) He is flying the Union Flag
2) it is upside down!


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We watched the Youth Nationals from the grassed area Bowleaze Coveway. This will be a great place to get a good view of the racing in any sort of on-shore breeze

Nothing much to see from the Nothe

One minute we are moaning to ISAF that sailing is good for the Olympics because it is a spectator sport and then as soon as someone tries to expand on this we are moaning again! Make your minds up!
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1 race area will be inside Portland Harbour, 1 will be very close to the Nothe and the other 3 will be further east in Weymouth Bay.
 
So Nothe Gardens will be a pretty good viewing location - whether you want to pay for the privelege is up to you!
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Originally posted by alstorer

Jim- thing is that long breakwaters are good for spectating- as are long promenades (Dundee, where I remeber throngs watching Ultra 30s- seriously, how did they muck that up so badly that it died- for example) whilst beaches are always going to be that much further away unless they're very steeply sloping. A bit of elevation also helps- a brekwater might not be much, but it'll often be enough to make a big big difference to what can be clearly seen.
 
The gardens in question appear to be here: http://goo.gl/maps/akLs
 
Is the racing area actually going to be anywhere near there?
 
As for paying? if they were to figure out some way of having safe spectating from the Portland Harbour breakwaters with the racing close by, I'd cheerfully pays me money.
 
As you go into the reception area of the WPNSA there's a display that shows the racing areas for the Olympics. If I remember correctly there are 2 areas in Portland Harbour and 3 out in the middle of Weymouth Bay - so nowhere near Nothe Gardens then.
 
The breakwaters might be your best bet, or the cliffs on the opposite side of the Bay along from Durdle Door (but carry some high power binoculars!).
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Originally posted by Laser 173312

 Blatant profiteering IMO.

If its like anything else councils run after fact finding trips and research , risk assessments , it will run at a huge loss even if full Wink
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Might pay to be on the water, but not on shore. Blatant profiteering IMO.

Didn't have to pay to watch 31st or 32nd America's Cup.
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Originally posted by alstorer

Jim- thing is that long breakwaters are good for spectating- as are long promenades (Dundee, where I remeber throngs watching Ultra 30s- seriously, how did they muck that up so badly that it died- for example) whilst beaches are always going to be that much further away unless they're very steeply sloping. A bit of elevation also helps- a brekwater might not be much, but it'll often be enough to make a big big difference to what can be clearly seen.
 
The gardens in question appear to be here: http://goo.gl/maps/akLs
 
Is the racing area actually going to be anywhere near there?
 
As for paying? if they were to figure out some way of having safe spectating from the Portland Harbour breakwaters with the racing close by, I'd cheerfully pays me money.
Last I heard was that the Match Racing would be in Newtons Cove which is the bit the gardens over look. That's about all you would see other than a procession of boats leaving/entering the Portland Harbour.

I can see there's an argument that a match race between two boats is easier to follow for the general public. I know the 49ers had some test races in this cove and the view would have been excellent. I don't know what the outcome was. It's a bit shifty in there.

I think they are also planning a large screen in the gardens.
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