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    Posted: 05 Dec 13 at 12:14am
I sort of get the point about yardsticks and random factors....but it seems to me one of the smaller and more consistent random factors.

But what a wise man Stewart Walker was...
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Down there in Oz, where it's sunny, windy and warm I'd be as happy as a pig in filth in a Laser, cadging rides on anything else when I fancied a change..... On a windless puddle in the Midlands, in <5 deg air temp, being ghosted by lightweights- well, it loses its appeal somewhat ;-)

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Originally posted by yellowwelly

On a windless puddle in the Midlands, in <5 deg air temp, being ghosted by lightweights- well, it loses its appeal somewhat ;-)


Being of similar weight, that is exactly why I got out of a Solo into something more suited to my weight. Unfortunately for you, anything that is suited to your own weight is likely to need hiking and putting stress on your knees...
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Originally posted by rb_stretch

Originally posted by yellowwelly

On a windless puddle in the Midlands, in <5 deg air temp, being ghosted by lightweights- well, it loses its appeal somewhat ;-)


Being of similar weight, that is exactly why I got out of a Solo into something more suited to my weight. Unfortunately for you, anything that is suited to your own weight is likely to need hiking and putting stress on your knees...

rock and a hard place huh?   LOL

There are a few options still, especially as I don't tend to sail dinghies in windy weather (I'd have my windsurfing kit for any likely windy forecast).  The other thing to consider is reducing the hiking time between downwind rests... e.g. sailing smaller courses.  

I'm also planning to corner Dan Holman at some time and get him to elaborate on the hiking techniquey thing he mentioned when Winging It posted the photo of that dude balls-out hiking on a D1.  He looked like I felt when hiking hard in my 100... and I have photographic evidence that shows a similar technique when I sail in any breeze, which is clearly a bad habit that needs breaking. (Probably could have done with it at 16/17 in a Laser too...)   FWIW I've had zero knee troubles with the Solo, even after the few windy races I've done...   Confused    
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Chris249.... 50-70% of the available boats out 'normally' is a huge proportion. At our club we already have a financial 'no race no boat space' incentive but I'm very interested in what other clubs do here. Does your club set a min number of times sailing before forfeiting your space rule or something else?
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If you weigh 100kgs and have knee troubles here is a tip ....





Loose some weight !!

The human knee is evolved to carry about 70kgs give or take a few ... 100kgs is beyond its capability unless you have 100kgs of all over muscle such that the muscles around the knee are in proportion with your size. 
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someone sounds like Grumpf... My knees were f**ked when I was 17, at around 75kg... ironic, isn't it... probably wouldn't have needed to hike so damn hard if I'd been 90-100kg then  LOL

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I'm 70kg and my knees are f**ked...

I think the weight thing is over simplistic, as is the sitting out, as I'm one of the world's perchers. For me, it is sitting crouched in the bottoms of boats in light winds for 40 years, and dragging boats up ramps which has done my knees and back.
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cant even be bothered to find the right emoticon in short reply to L123456's stupid statement there.
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I'm 85kg and my knees are good! My wife is 47kg and he knees and ankles are f**ked, she never even touched a Laser.....sh*t happens, I don't blame the Laser for Jimbo's knees. It's probably an inbreeding thing xx

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