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Noidea 
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 Topic: Classes fading in popularityPosted: 25 Jun 05 at 6:54pm |
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it really is as easy as buying any SMOD off the shelf. You go to RMW (or Aadvark or Bloodaxe) and you say you want a Cherub. They make you one. You collect it. You go sailing. Where's the difficult part in that? And then you own and race the only twin trapeze boat for lightweights! With the new rules just passed, what better time to buy because there is likely to be a gap before the next development comes along. [/QUOTE] I hate to tell you this but the 29er X is coming out and that really will be a one design twin trapeze boat for lightweights So cherubs will once again become a more extreme development version of another boat |
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Mike278
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Posted: 25 Jun 05 at 7:02pm |
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shouldn't that be that the 29erX will become a tame version of a cherub
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Strawberry
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Posted: 25 Jun 05 at 11:25pm |
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But how long will the 29erX last? (Rhetorical question, i don't want an answer) This takes us back to the beginning of the argument and so on and so forth! |
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JimC
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 12:55am |
The Bethwaites have got a pretty good survival rate for their classes so its in with a chance I guess. And the "conversion rate" of their boats from one country to International or Recognised status is truly astonishing. The main reason why people who sail boats with less restctive rules get wound up about SMODS is that in spite of their being perfectly good reasons to choose a SMOD over a more open rule boat (not having to worry about choice of sailmaker/turn up and sail, never worry about boat design/tuning guide suits every boat etc) the manufacturers also strongly sell "advantages" that are totally mythical, like better resale value, closer racing and the like. Edited by JimC |
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Peter Rhodes
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 10:12am |
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I feel that boat set up/design is an integeral part of sailing so smods do not test that in a race therefore are an incomplete test of sailing ability
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Strawberry
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 2:08pm |
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The very fact that the Bethwaites have developed the 29erX is the perfect demonstration of why SMOD's fade. How may people are going to sail 29ers now? Don't you think everyone will now buy and sail the 29erX? Therefore the standard 29er will fade away, loose all their value, etc. etc. And then how long before the 29erY comes along, and the 29erX will then fade away. The life cycle of an SMOD. |
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Guest
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 8:18pm |
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Has there been any details of the 29erX released from an official source .. I think this may be a bit of idle gossip. |
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 8:41pm |
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Well the 29er is the ISAF Youth boat next year, so I think its future is pretty bright! (There will be lots of boats at the Weymouth Youth Nationals next year!) Designs do get improved (the 49er is now a better build, especially the mast and sails) but will not get replaced, ten years and still going strong! 29erX is designed to full a specific gap ("49er" Olympic performance boat for Women). The 29er is designed for Youths and is by the sound of it much easier to sail than the 29erX. Full details may be found on Bethwaite website... Edited by Jon Emmett |
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Wave Rider
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 9:24pm |
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I would still buy a 29er because if you are too heavy for the 29erx you can get the 29er and still sail it !
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Strawberry
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Posted: 26 Jun 05 at 9:28pm |
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If the success of the 29er lies in it being the ISAF youth boat then maybe the future is not so bright, because one day there will be demand for the Youth boat to be changed. And now all the kids are going to want to be sailing the 29erX, and I don't think that point of change is too far off.
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