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dougabrams ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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Fair point. I've just found out that its my gloves that make my tiller extension seem slippy.Without gloves the tiller is fine, but I get blisters from the mainsheet. New gloves, I guess! |
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swiftsolo.org ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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Guys, If you want an exiting singlehander that won't cost a bomb and will go like the clappers check out this website www.swiftsolo.org I am in the process of building one myself. Apparently they are easier to sail than the Musto Skiff. The class is also being controlled by the members which is a big plus.
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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how much would one of those cost, cause they look quite exciting. How difficult is it to build one?
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Jp Indoe
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Peter Rhodes ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171 |
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wouldn't it be lighter to just have the cedar instead of adding the carbon?
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swiftsolo.org ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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I haven't finished yet but the whole thing looks like it is going to cost me about Aussie $15,000. That includes the the hull, the rig, the fittings and the sails. I have no experience at all in boat building but so far I have done ok. If you buy the plans you get a manual with photos which is over 100 pages long. The designer Bram Dally is very helpful. According to Bram they are faster than Musto Skiffs but slower than 49ers. Upwind about as fast as 505s but faster downwind. |
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swiftsolo.org ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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The cedar is only a core material. (like foam) The carbon/kevlar hybrid and s-glass provide the real strength. The good thing about the cedar is that it resists repeated cyclic loading without losing stiffness so your boat last for 10 years or more at the top level. That is the hope anyway - Geogeon Brothers are currently undertaking testing to verify this is the case or not. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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What, you mean like my (currently 15 years old) glass/foam sandwich Cherub has? I think you'll find its as least as much to do with the engineering as the materials. But the Swift Solo should certainly last if its well maintained - goodness knows there's enough structure there with that rather generous minimum weight. Edited by JimC |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Looks great but why make it unnecessarily heavy? With modern technology, and as JimC says good engineering it could be several Kg lighter and still have a long life. Get Guy ? David Winder to advise on building it and it you could be onto a winner! PS Its hidden away a bit in this thread - suggest you start another if you want any significant 'exposure'. |
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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$15,000 aussie dollars is about £6000 i think
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Jp Indoe
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swiftsolo.org ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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The problem is that if you campaign a 49er at the top level you can only expect to get 2 or 3 years out of the hull before it starts to become uncompetitive. The structure gets a little soft. The idea with the Swift Solo is to use cedar as the core component as timber can resist repeated cyclic loadings better and still retain its original stiffness. I would prefer to accept the slight weight penalty that this imposes to have a boat that will be as good in 10 years as the day it was launched.Commercial builders are not keen on this building technique because it takes longer to hand strip up a hull than using a plug. If you click on the Epoxyworks article on the www.swiftsolo.org web site this gives a lot more information on the subject.
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