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    Posted: 12 Feb 08 at 6:55pm

 im assuming possbily incorrect that the rs800 all up weight of 110kgs is before you take into account all the weights that go in front the weight equalisation system so if your light your boats gets soemthing like another 25kgs. coz they are bloody heavy.

The cost is immaterial if you can afford it anyway and as for the ns14 being 14kgs lighter than a i14 is that a minimum hull weight then? as a certain hiking class namely the phantom dreamt up this minimum weight years ago thinking it would never be achieveable but they managed it and now you need a epoxy boat as there are the only ones down to weight. class rules means the i14 has to be 78kg and as mentioned before you want the weight in the right place hence why carrying lead is better.
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heavy boats, dont you love them

You list the L2k, ISO and L5000 in your sig!  I hope you are not being ironic!
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Plus the weight can be placed in the optimum place around the boat. 
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Originally posted by Chew my RS

Yes it is 110kg all up.  I quoted the bare hull weight, because that is the weight that is governed by the I14 rules (78kg?).  Therefore, like for like, the 800 is lighter.  It has a carbon mast that is likely no heavier than a I14 one, sails will be a similar weight but the foils will be heavier.  I don't know what the all up sailing weight of an I14 is, but I'll wager it is not much (if any) less than a 800.  And I don't really understand what there is to be proud of in carrying 14kg of lead?  Why not jsut build it stronger and carry 4kg of lead, which is still enough to cover the proposed class weight reduction. 


Rob Greenhaugh's rig on 1530 : just 7kgs ish so not the same as an 800s!

Hull weight of 74.25 dropping by 4 kgs over 4 years. Sailing weigh will be a lot less

Hulls are fantastically strong! the lead is just to bring it up to weight
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Originally posted by ratface

heavy boats, dont you love them

You list the L2k, ISO and L5000 in your sig!  I hope you are not being ironic!
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Yes it is 110kg all up.  I quoted the bare hull weight, because that is the weight that is governed by the I14 rules (78kg?).  Therefore, like for like, the 800 is lighter.  It has a carbon mast that is likely no heavier than a I14 one, sails will be a similar weight but the foils will be heavier.  I don't know what the all up sailing weight of an I14 is, but I'll wager it is not much (if any) less than a 800.  And I don't really understand what there is to be proud of in carrying 14kg of lead?  Why not jsut build it stronger and carry 4kg of lead, which is still enough to cover the proposed class weight reduction. 

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Originally posted by simsy

I believe the all up weight of an 800 is around 110kg.



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I believe the all up weight of an 800 is around 110kg.
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I believe the 800 much like the 600 has a relativly light hull but the fixtures and fitings tend to be heavy, such as the racks, foils boom, etc giving a fairly high sailing weight.
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