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    Posted: 21 Mar 19 at 5:53pm
Blaze is definitely not a low wetted area design, you are right, and it is indeed very stable though it will tend to sit on it's leeward rack if left unattended in any wind.

Originally posted by H2

Cirrus - what Sam said except I disagree that the waterline beam is similar.

But that's all I said didn't I?

Park the boats next to each other on the ramp and you will immediately see what I mean!

Given the lack of H2s at either of my clubs that's not likely in the near future but  looking at photos online I'd stick by my statement, with the caveat that H2 looks a little narrower at the WL.



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The 'hull' can be as wide as you like ... with wings or a 'flare' in the overall hull shape but  you do not sail with it fully immersed in the wet stuff. 

Wings have no effect on waterline (immersed) width !! ... and if you are sailing (flat) neither will any hull flare.
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Originally posted by Cirrus

The 'hull' can be as wide as you like ... with wings or a 'flare' in the overall hull shape but  you do not sail with it fully immersed in the wet stuff. 

Wings have no effect on waterline (immersed) width !! ... and if you are sailing (flat) neither will any hull flare.

My point exactly sir  Big smile
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    "It's the tyres that wind me up, brand new and already full of cracks."

Anyway, trollies. Don't buy new trolley tyres if you can help it; simply fit your old part worn 8" road tyres much tougher so more resistant to punctures and a better quality material to begin with.
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Originally posted by Do Different

    "It's the tyres that wind me up, brand new and already full of cracks."

Anyway, trollies. Don't buy new trolley tyres if you can help it; simply fit your old part worn 8" road tyres much tougher so more resistant to punctures and a better quality material to begin with.
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I do exactly that too. With a light boat as an additional benefit punctures are not that critical the sidewalls are often stiff enough that you don't need any air in the tires.

My current trolly is made from a broken mast and a broken boom with bits of a broken tiller as a handle. All Ally held together with some Glass and very light.
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About a hundred years ago I had a combi trailer for a fireball. It had proper mini wheels and tires from a scrapped mini. I used it for about a year before getting round to replacing the completely flat tires. It rode much better flat than inflated.
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Originally posted by iGRF

<snip>. Given that Health and Safety refuses to permit anything over 32kgs being handled by one person, until recently almost the entire dinghy population was in breach of H&S guidelines.

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what a surprise ...  wrong as usual ... 
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Originally posted by iGRF

<snip>. Given that Health and Safety refuses to permit anything over 32kgs being handled by one person, until recently almost the entire dinghy population was in breach of H&S guidelines.

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what a surprise ...  wrong as usual ... 


Why of course I'm wrong I'm a man.

It was reduced to 25 kgs some time recently, not only am I wrong I'm living in the past.

Which makes using aluminium trolleys with their tyres filled with water all the more relevant don't you think?

I guess at least with a Miracle there are two of you, you're almost certainly a Miracle sailor spotting how wrong I am, they do it all the time where I sail.

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Which makes using aluminium trolleys with their tyres filled with water all the more relevant don't you think?

Makes no difference to the trolley weight when you haul it around on land either does it !  er .... wait a minute ...is there not a tiny flaw with this 'logic' somewhere.  Somebody explain why I should pay extra for a 'lighter' alloy trolley and then drag a few extra kg of water around with me....  Last time I checked a kg of water weighted the same as a kg of steel or lead.... LOL 
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